Ergo/supplements that have changed your life

Baxo · Apr 20, 2019

I’d like to know what ergogenics was a lifechanger for you and you’ll never stop using them.
We are always in the “rat lab” game, so it would be very interesting to discover and try new compounds. Or something you don’t have faith but really works

For me:
1. Masteron: great libido increase... as a cronic test user my libido was “normal” after some years... with mast it became as I was in my 1st cycle

2. Deca: I would run deca forever just because of the joint and ligaments well being... good joints = more weight you can handle

3. Ligandrol: I’ve never felt an oral kick in, but ligandrol... stan, anavar, dbol, hemo... Ligandrol was the best regarding strength and weight gain

4. Glutamine: I’ve never believed glutamine suplementation, but decided to give it a try again. I was suffering of constant TGI infections, almost every two months. With glutamine it was over. I belive gluta has nothing to do with muscles, but with TGI health and immunity.

5. Green tea: there is a specific brand of lemon powdered green tea where I live (Brazil), called magro. It is delicious and I can easily drink 500ml in or between meals, I dont feel full and feel some of a pro-digestion propriety.

6. Water out from now foods: very good to control water retention and bloating

7. Isotretinoine: I’ve always suffered from severe backne and the only thing that controlled it was Iso... nowdays I only dose once a week 20mg.

FrancisK · Apr 20, 2019

Baxo said:
I’d like to know what ergogenics was a lifechanger for you and you’ll never stop using them.
We are always in the “rat lab” game, so it would be very interesting to discover and try new compounds. Or something you don’t have faith but really works

For me:
1. Masteron: great libido increase... as a cronic test user my libido was “normal” after some years... with mast it became as I was in my 1st cycle

2. Deca: I would run deca forever just because of the joint and ligaments well being... good joints = more weight you can handle

3. Ligandrol: I’ve never felt an oral kick in, but ligandrol... stan, anavar, dbol, hemo... Ligandrol was the best regarding strength and weight gain

4. Glutamine: I’ve never believed glutamine suplementation, but decided to give it a try again. I was suffering of constant TGI infections, almost every two months. With glutamine it was over. I belive gluta has nothing to do with muscles, but with TGI health and immunity.

5. Green tea: there is a specific brand of lemon powdered green tea where I live (Brazil), called magro. It is delicious and I can easily drink 500ml in or between meals, I dont feel full and feel some of a pro-digestion propriety.

6. Water out from now foods: very good to control water retention and bloating

7. Isotretinoine: I’ve always suffered from severe backne and the only thing that controlled it was Iso... nowdays I only dose once a week 20mg.

Good post, so #7 you use accutane once a week??

Baxo · Apr 20, 2019

At first I used 20mg 2x/week for 3 months... after that just 20mg/week

My backne was horrible and now its pretty fine. When I took my shirt off someone always said "you back is full of acne", now they don't say that anymore.

LK3 · Apr 21, 2019

testosterone
everything else can basically come n go.
100% necessity, quality of life and game changer.

Vlad The Impaler · Apr 21, 2019

Testosterone

Cialis

Carditone

Citrulline

Zinc l-carnosine

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FrancisK · Apr 21, 2019

Baxo said:
At first I used 20mg 2x/week for 3 months... after that just 20mg/week

My backne was horrible and now its pretty fine. When I took my shirt off someone always said "you back is full of acne", now they don't say that anymore.

Very interesting I am definitely going to give that a shot. I hate accutane because of my lips but at once or twice a week dosing it would be quite tolerable.

nothuman · Apr 21, 2019

Vlad The Impaler said:
Testosterone

Cialis

Carditone

Citrulline

Zinc l-carnosine

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What kind of issues were you having prior to supplementing this? Gut/digestive? I've used a few bottles of it myself but it didn't really help a burping problem, but it's supposed to be a wonder supplement for stomach issues and the best weapon against h pylori

Baxo · Apr 21, 2019

FrancisK said:
Very interesting I am definitely going to give that a shot. I hate accutane because of my lips but at once or twice a week dosing it would be quite tolerable.

With 20mg 2x weekly I got mild lip crack... almost nothing... and after 2 months I lowered to 20mg once a week, no colaterals and no ALT/AST alteration. Im runnin 400mg test cyp, 400mg deca and 100mg mast eod

Knight9 · Apr 22, 2019

Baxo said:
With 20mg 2x weekly I got mild lip crack... almost nothing... and after 2 months I lowered to 20mg once a week, no colaterals and no ALT/AST alteration. Im runnin 400mg test cyp, 400mg deca and 100mg mast eod

How is your sensitivity in the sun with that? The problem with accutane is you cant be out in the sun and you run the risk of getting keloid scars if you like getting tattoos.

Elvia1023 · Apr 22, 2019

Good post. Although for me nothing is essential. Perhaps testosterone as I have fucked up my natural test. Although even that would come back in time.

I was on 700mg test recently and I have started getting acne. Not a single spot on my body but my face has a few (bad ones) so not a good look. Gonna see how things look in the next few weeks after changing my aas. Higher test does nothing for me so I think this is me finally giving up on it. I will probably stick to a max of about 400mg (from approx 700mg) from now on. If this acne doesn't go away I will use accutane as well. 20mg per day for a few weeks then I will try out your twice weekly approach to see how that works. I sometimes use melanotan 2 when on accutane to combat the skin sensitivity issues. Not used mt2 in ages but that is another great drug with unique results to anything else on the market.

Baxo · Apr 22, 2019

Knight9 said:
How is your sensitivity in the sun with that? The problem with accutane is you cant be out in the sun and you run the risk of getting keloid scars if you like getting tattoos.

Man, with 20mg/week I've been to Cancun last month lol... no problems at all... there's no comparison between the dosage to treat severe acne, like 20mg/daily, with 20mg/week or 2x week. You'll have a normal life.

Elvia1023 said:
Good post. Although for me nothing is essential. Perhaps testosterone as I have fucked up my natural test. Although even that would come back in time.

I was on 700mg test recently and I have started getting acne. Not a single spot on my body but my face has a few (bad ones) so not a good look. Gonna see how things look in the next few weeks after changing my aas. Higher test does nothing for me so I think this is me finally giving up on it. I will probably stick to a max of about 400mg (from approx 700mg) from now on. If this acne doesn't go away I will use accutane as well. 20mg per day for a few weeks then I will try out your twice weekly approach to see how that works. I sometimes use melanotan 2 when on accutane to combat the skin sensitivity issues. Not used mt2 in ages but that is another great drug with unique results to anything else on the market.

I think 20mg/day would be a little agressive (my opinion)... maybe you could start slowly like 20mg twice a week and reavaliate further... In our degree of acne (steroid-related) we don't need such approach. You need to give a time to the body, like 1 or 2 months with that low dose, but the colaterals will be much lighter, like just a little crack in the lower lip.

When I first tried accutane (isotretinoin) I've done 20mg 3x/week... not good, my lower lip cracked hard and it was a problem because it bleed sometimes and I wasn't able to kiss the girls I was dating lol... not good experience. I could't open my mouth completely because it would open the crack even more. With 20mg twice a week I didn't got that problem and solved 85% of the acne (bacne)... in fact, my acne is hard in the back, moderate at the shoulders and mild in the chest. Nowdays it's just mild in the back and I think I could solve it completely upping the dose, but as I'm thinking in isotretinoin in the long run I'll not elevate de dose to not compromisse my liver. Nowdays my AST/ALT is 50 (upper limit: 40)

I got all those knowledgemente from my ex girlfriend which is a dermatologist lol...

But, Elvia, could you discuss more about suplements that you love and some ergos (AAS) that you like a lot? As I can see, you have lowered your test, did you used something to complemente that? Other compounds.

swim15 · Apr 22, 2019

Just FYI those doses are very low compared to what is typically prescribed. When I was put on it, I was at 50-60mg per day for 5 months but I never had acne again (and that was 10 years ago). So I don’t think sun sensitivity would matter much and I never did anything special to stay out of the sun even on my prescribed dose during the summer

Vlad The Impaler · Apr 22, 2019

nothuman said:
What kind of issues were you having prior to supplementing this? Gut/digestive? I've used a few bottles of it myself but it didn't really help a burping problem, but it's supposed to be a wonder supplement for stomach issues and the best weapon against h pylori

It basically has cured any gut issues I've had. I had a burping problem and it went away.

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Baxo · Apr 22, 2019

Vlad The Impaler said:
It basically has cured any gut issues I've had. I had a burping problem and it went away.

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I’ll definately give it a try!!!