anyone train with a running back?

[sma]

I was talking to a guy from my gym hes big as a mofo

training is simple heavy and high frequency

Im going to do it for a while see how it goes.

 

[nothuman]

NFL running back?

 

[sma]

No I just moved to Canada so it's a cfl running back he said he was drafted by Chicago tho and never played for 2 years so he went to cfl
Because he just loves the sport

It's a pretty interesting routine

Days are split
Upper body (pull-ups / db or bb rows) + 2 dif presses for chest
Lower body (squats/ hack squat) + standing and seated leg curl
Rest
Sprints plyo (I'm going to plug in arms here lol) my own stuff
Lower back + over head press ( floor deads/ rack deads) + sh press + side lat
Rest
Rest

 

[MightyJohn]

I used to run a sports specific training facility that had children to NFLers in it

 

[sma]

I used to run a sports specific training facility that had children to NFLers in it

can you post any routines? if possible

 

[Ashop]

I was talking to a guy from my gym hes big as a mofo

training is simple heavy and high frequency

Im going to do it for a while see how it goes.

Should be interesting. Does he do alot of sprints?

 

[turbobusa]

I was talking to a guy from my gym hes big as a mofo

training is simple heavy and high frequency

Im going to do it for a while see how it goes.

No but I've trained with a sore back.. T

 

[TheOtherOne55]

I'm sorry but the title of this thread is just funny..."anyone train with a running back??"

Sorry to tell you dude but he's just doing a football specific training program...if he was a WR/DB/DL whatever..he'd still be doing the same thing except that field work like plyos would be position specific.

 

[max5000]

No but I've trained with a sore back.. T

and I've trained with a running nose.....

 

[Kaladryn]

I'm sorry but the title of this thread is just funny..."anyone train with a running back??"

Sorry to tell you dude but he's just doing a football specific training program...if he was a WR/DB/DL whatever..he'd still be doing the same thing except that field work like plyos would be position specific.

naw, running backs are the most athletic, highly trained athletes on the field, sure SOME WR maybe LB train like them, but not many.

 

[TheOtherOne55]

naw, running backs are the most athletic, highly trained athletes on the field, sure SOME WR maybe LB train like them, but not many.

Cool.

Doesn't mean there workouts are any different.

Give me a big DE or athletic OT and ill show you a highly specialized ridiculous athlete.

 

[sma]

Should be interesting. Does he do alot of sprints?

yea but thats on field stuf im just tagging alog for the weight room stuff..

should be interesting

 

[Gunsmith]

I train with Laron Landry when he comes home to Louisiana , his training is a little differant than mine , more volume and less rest but same basic stuff.

 

[sma]

I train with Laron Landry when he comes home to Louisiana , his training is a little differant than mine , more volume and less rest but same basic stuff.

can u give an example?

my experience has been different calculated rest times.. repping 5 of your 7 rpm for 4-5 sets not much failure training

 

[MightyJohn]

can you post any routines? if possible

No 2 were the same...alot of sports specific/functional movements....sprints(parachutes, resistance), jumping exercises(jump boxes, bands etc.), driving machines, hand/eye coordination exercises...as I said no 2 were the same for instance:
nfl rb a)great conditioned, had problems catching/holding on to the ball...his workout was around hand/eye coordination stuff such as catching a ball, thrown at him awkwardly standing on bosu ball, 2 trainers firing footballs at him close to 2 at a time(stuff of that nature)

nfl rb b)on the field good player held back by the elite level of other athletes...his workout was like a high school football program, power movements and speed/agility training

I ran the facility and program, personally did very little training of the athletes, that was left to the trainers

 

[Kaladryn]

Cool.

Doesn't mean there workouts are any different.

Give me a big DE or athletic OT and ill show you a highly specialized ridiculous athlete.

their workouts are completely different, body types are completely different, etc

Barry Sanders used to squat 585 for 5 at a bodyweight of 200lbs in college, any linemen doing 3 times their bodyweight for reps? doubt it.

 

[TheOtherOne55]

their workouts are completely different, body types are completely different, etc

Barry Sanders used to squat 585 for 5 at a bodyweight of 200lbs in college, any linemen doing 3 times their bodyweight for reps? doubt it.

body types are completely different....what school did you play for man? I'm assuming because it sounds like your university or pro level team did something different than 99% of all programs out there.

field work is different but when it comes to gym time...there is no difference other than the weight on the bar. Lineman and RBs and DBs alll of them. Look up a Division 1 off season training program or something.

this comes from experience, from playing THEN interning as a strength and conditioning coach at multiple programs.

what's your background?

 

[BigSwole]

their workouts are completely different, body types are completely different, etc

Barry Sanders used to squat 585 for 5 at a bodyweight of 200lbs in college, any linemen doing 3 times their bodyweight for reps? doubt it.

The stupid BW argument. No, most linemen can't squat 900+ for reps. Could Barry Sanders do it either? Of course not. Could Barry Sanders play on the line? I doubt it.

 

[Kaladryn]

body types are completely different....what school did you play for man? I'm assuming because it sounds like your university or pro level team did something different than 99% of all programs out there.

field work is different but when it comes to gym time...there is no difference other than the weight on the bar. Lineman and RBs and DBs alll of them. Look up a Division 1 off season training program or something.

this comes from experience, from playing THEN interning as a strength and conditioning coach at multiple programs.

what's your background?

I've been studying training methods used by football players for over 20 years, there have been a lot of advancements in the past few decades, however, even at the pro level, most training regimens are sorely lacking. At the college level, it's even worse. The best players seek out individual help from a handful of top trainers, or develop their own. I have attended seminars and spoken personally with Raymond Farris, made famous for is training techniques used by Jerry Rice and Roger Craig. I can tell you that back then, almost no one was training a this level.

If you think it comes down to agility training and standard weight training, you are probably stuck in the dogma of most D-I training. You'd think with all that money and all those coaches, their training would be cutting edge, it isn't.

It comes down to training the muscles, the nerves, the tendons (all different) and integration. No position on the field requires the combination of speed, quickness, power, durability, and mental awareness as the running back.

I red-shirted for part of a year at a big university and was so disgusted by their training program that I had no interest in participating. I was 19 and knew 10 times more than those moronic coaches stuck in decades old dogma.

 

[TheOtherOne55]

I've been studying training methods used by football players for over 20 years, there have been a lot of advancements in the past few decades, however, even at the pro level, most training regimens are sorely lacking. At the college level, it's even worse. The best players seek out individual help from a handful of top trainers, or develop their own. I have attended seminars and spoken personally with Raymond Farris, made famous for is training techniques used by Jerry Rice and Roger Craig. I can tell you that back then, almost no one was training a this level.

If you think it comes down to agility training and standard weight training, you are probably stuck in the dogma of most D-I training. You'd think with all that money and all those coaches, their training would be cutting edge, it isn't.

It comes down to training the muscles, the nerves, the tendons (all different) and integration. No position on the field requires the combination of speed, quickness, power, durability, and mental awareness as the running back.

I red-shirted for part of a year at a big university and was so disgusted by their training program that I had no interest in participating. I was 19 and knew 10 times more than those moronic coaches stuck in decades old dogma.

The old "I talked to ____ guru" explanation.

Raymond Harris is a well respected dude but he's basically a speed specialist for the off-season. He does nothing with their weight training program.

There also is a HUGE difference between an NFL/D1 strength and conditioning coach who is setting up programs for the team (inseason/offseason) VS. individual specialist trainers.

I THOUGHT we were referring to training/workout programs—which is what alll universities use.

I understand that many pros go out of their way to seek out these ''speed specialists" and such during the offseason...when you do that you usually aren't reporting to your own offseason training. Seahawk OT Walter Jones used to do this every year, not do the Hawks program but hire a specialist work with him on position specific field work and training.

BUT...for the most part, guys follow the training programs that are laid out by their team's strength and conditioning coach. AND I KNOW FOR A FACT, that the offensive lineman for the AZ Cardinals and the WR's for the AZ Cardinals are BOTH in the weight room squatting and clean pulling, using explosive upper body exercises, etc.
They aren't split up doing completely different programs....they follow the same program THEN, AT THE END of the workout....they MIGHT do some different position specific conditioning or speed drills.

That is a fact.

I also believe that the argument of "most D1 programs are stuck in the past training principle-wise" is false. Maybe when you are talking about DIII or lower level programs but Pac-12 and SEC teams spend a lot of money to make sure their guys are the most highly trained in-shape athletes on the field....they are using the most up-to-date stuff right now.