Had an old friend swear by Helios. I don't know if you can still get them. Clen, yohimbe, and maybe something for cramping. Said it was the best way to hit fat deposits that didn't have a lot of blood supply....and pinning took care of that.
But he would multi-inject his entire lower torso....then go cut grass, run the neighborhood, etc.
Be a sweaty mess.
Me on the other hand....a cup of strong coffee and I can feel my hands tingle or even Trimble!
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Could use dmso or Phlojel and make your own. Not sure how good it would work. I believe guys used to use Phlojel and make a transdermal tren prohormone
Plus DMSO has that odor it gives off. Also if you plan to go that route remember that hygiene is everything as DMSO can carry a lot of stuff across that you may not want in your system!Phlojel and especially DMSO were all to harsh for my skin even is super diluted amounts.