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very good article, hell sums up my last year of research into how this sport works.
" Use Arimidex or Nolvadex every day as desired. To keep your testes at a normal size, either use HCG every 4th week (2,000IU on Mon, Wed, Fri) or 50mg EOD of Clomid throughout the whole thing. Don't use these for the last 4 weeks before the show though." I thought clomid was to only be used post cycle to bring back natural test levels. Is it possible to run it through out a cycle to prevent atrophy? thanks CJ |
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help me out bro im a bit confused!!
ok...i did know what i had planned for my bulk season and precontest prep but after reading your precontest article i need u to let me know how this looks.
bulking with--test prop(1gm a week), EQ(800mg a week),GH(10iu's e day), slin(15iu's 2 days a week), tren(700mg e day) or dbol(50mg a day) precontest--test prop(1gm a week), tren(700mg a week), GH(10iu's e day), winny(700mg a week), EQ?? i thought that tren along with the rest of the bulking cycle would net me great gains(20lbs) in quality size more so than if i replaced the tren with dbol. what do u think? also when it comes to the precontest stack u suggest dropping EQ when i thought Eq and winny were great for precontest? u suggest using primobolan....would i see better results in seperation and hardness adding that and taking out the EQ? thanks for any help. |
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Re: help me out bro im a bit confused!!
"bulking with--test prop(1gm a week), EQ(800mg a week),GH(10iu's e day), slin(15iu's 2 days a week), tren(700mg e day) or dbol(50mg a day)"
That's exactly what I do. Keep everything the same but do the d-bol for 4 weeks then switch to tren for 4 weeks and so on. Make sure you have your regular blood tests and if they are OK (they should be), just keep going. "precontest--test prop(1gm a week), tren(700mg a week), GH(10iu's e day), winny(700mg a week), EQ??" I'd stop EQ 4 weeks out and replace with masteron, or primo. Definetelly add Halo at least the last week. "also when it comes to the precontest stack u suggest dropping EQ when i thought Eq and winny were great for precontest? u suggest using primobolan....would i see better results in seperation and hardness adding that and taking out the EQ?" A lot of people, myself included, hold water on EQ. No water on Primo Acetate (I don't like Depot). If you want hardness nothing compares to masteron or especially Halo! You should be on them before the comp, or at least Halo for at least the last week. |
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Holy shit, everytime I read something here I am more impressed. You guys make this sport alot easier for us just starting out. Thanks for this awsome article and as I make gains, I will be sure to post some "along the way pictures" on the board.
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Big A a few questions...
Sorry Big A, im new here...and I know this is probably an old subject, but I have a few questions...
1. Why the apples in the diet and the bread? Am asking because most people use complex carbs for dieting...and the bread is processed food... 2. Being that im 273-275 pounds how much protein on this type of diet would I need to keep my muscle mass...Im about 12-13 %percent bodyfat... 3. When you say protein shake, I assume you mean a 50-60 gram serving? 4. On the weekend how many carbs are you talking about 600-800 grams? 5. Also, im curious to your last week prep? Do you cut out your gear? GH? ect? What about Anti-E's the last week, do you up it? Sorry for all the questions...I found the article very interesting and wanted to know more about it... Thanks for your time, chris |
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Re: Big A a few questions...
"1. Why the apples in the diet and the bread? Am asking because most people use complex carbs for dieting...and the bread is processed food..."
Apples are only to brake the monotomy of the diet. They have a low GI. They are definetelly not needed, but you are such a furnace on this program that you will burn everything. Same for the bread. You burn so much so quickly, you can get away with haveing 100g of nice freshly baked bread. Of course, you can use brown rice, potatoes, etc in place. But I like to stay sane as well and everyone that used this program, whether they ate what's outlined or they replaced certain items, the results were the same. "2. Being that im 273-275 pounds how much protein on this type of diet would I need to keep my muscle mass...Im about 12-13 %percent bodyfat..." I never count. I always say to eat as much protein as you can. If you are hungry, eat more protein. If you are losing muscle, eat more protein. Everyone's different. "3. When you say protein shake, I assume you mean a 50-60 gram serving?" Correct. "4. On the weekend how many carbs are you talking about 600-800 grams?" About that, per day. Again, it's an individual thing. "5. Also, im curious to your last week prep? Do you cut out your gear? GH? ect? What about Anti-E's the last week, do you up it?" GH gets stopped 2 weeks out. Only gear the last week is test sups, primo orals, masteron/tren, halo. Also, a shit load of anti estrogens, as well as Cytadren. The susp gets stopped the day before. All other gear all the way to the show. Synthelator 1 hour before stage. |
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Big A...
If you can outline a last week pre-contest prep...you can be somewhat general if you want...(I understand you cant give out all your secects) Im asking about carbing up and getting rid of water... Also, how do you use your Anti-E's the last week? Cytadren- could you explain how to use this in more detail? Sorry if im being a pest...The last week before a show is the worst for me. In my last show I was 224 pounds, at 2 weeks out (pics in the members section) and ended up at a very flat 218 on stage...Not good... Thanks for your time, chris250 |
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That's the one thing that I stay away from advising - carb depletion/loading and the water. Everyone is different and you would have to see the person on a daily basis to help them. Advice over the net like this will most likely end up in disaster. Also, wyldeone is the master for this. Anti-e's - I just basically load them up - 2mg/day arimidex and 40mg/day nolvadex. Cytadren - never really noticed much difference, but I take it just in case... 2 tabs/day each day for the last week. |
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hey Big A i usually workout in the mid afternoon say 3pm, only once a day would this diet still be efffective? also, when you say meat , fish, chicken ect.. how much are you actually talking about? cause your adding a shake too!
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Very informative article Big A! Damn rookies keep coming out of the woodwork with questions....
1. I am around 220lbs, down from a high of 250 lbs (looked like a big, round ball). I don't want to enter a show, just look good on the beach. If I follow that diet for 9 weeks, should I be able to maintain abs, veins, etc for another 8-10 weeks (till the end of summer) by keeping up the cardio, and eating very clean and sensible? 2. What would be a maltodextrin meal? Is the 100g of rice the amount of cooked rice or "dry" rice? 3. I have a shit-load of 20mcg T3. If I didn't add the clen, how much of a difference would it make? 4.. What is the advantage of adding nolvadex (I have never had a prob with gyno) while dieting? This year I am turning 32. I want to be in the best shape of my life (hopefully)!!! This is also the first summer in 15 years I won't be working 60-90 hrs/week (farm), so I intend to enjoy the "beach scenery", and nice weather. I have a good idea of what to eat and what to do cardio-wise, but that article gives me a plan to follow. Thank you very much for taking the time to write it Big A. Also, thanks to everyone else who read it and thought of other questions and comments to add. |
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You can easily stay lean after the diet by earting clean for as long as you want.
Maltodextrin is a carbohydrate. It's the hardest cabohydrate to get converted into fat, despite having a large glycemic index. Because of those two reasons it's the best choice for insulin use as well. You find it in powder form. The rice is dry weight. The above program is for maximum fat loss in minimum time. You will still lose a lot without clen, just that without the clen it won't be as much as with it. Nolvadex doesn't let the estrogen attach as much to various receptor sites so it will help against female pattern fat distribution. |
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