1st cycle, criteque please

[mrsoul]

hey guys. 35 yrs old, 6 ft 1, 240 lbs ( down from 256). diet is clean and cardio 4 times a week. training as hard as i have in years and wanting to continue losing fat while gaining strength and lean muscle. please tell me what you think.

wks 1-12, test e 500mg a week, proviron 50mg a day
wks 9-12, winny tabs 50mg a day
wk 14 clomid 150mg a day
wk 15 clomid 100 mg a day
wk16 clomid 50 mg a day

 

[JOE_COOL]

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If I were You I would cut the stan tab dosage in half a go for 5 to 6 weeks.
Also by the time You get to Your 5th. week Your voice will definitely change.
Don't get to alarmed. I've gotten really scared in the past and screwed my cycles up because I was affraid people would notice. But I think I'm getting use to it.
Also if You find out that enathate is really strong for You, next time try sustanon. It's alot more slower acting.

 

[Cadelles10]

I dont know much about steriods, but i thought i would throw this in for others to note. Shouldnt the first cycle be a bulker not a cutter, because it will be the most effective?

 

[terryd5150]

hey guys. 35 yrs old, 6 ft 1, 240 lbs ( down from 256). diet is clean and cardio 4 times a week. training as hard as i have in years and wanting to continue losing fat while gaining strength and lean muscle. please tell me what you think.

wks 1-12, test e 500mg a week, proviron 50mg a day
wks 9-12, winny tabs 50mg a day
wk 14 clomid 150mg a day
wk 15 clomid 100 mg a day
wk16 clomid 50 mg a day

If this is your first ever cycle I think you might want to try running just the test and the proviron. With your clean diet and cardio routine I think your fat loss/lean muscle mass gain goals will be achievable using only these two compounds (followed by the PCT that you've outlined).

Shouldnt the first cycle be a bulker not a cutter, because it will be the most effective?

No. The goals set up for an individual will dictate the type of cycle and diet routine to be used.

In this case he clearly stated he was interested in adding lean muscle mass and reducing bodyfat, therefore precluding the use of a traditional "bulker" cycle; however, you should take note that it will be the type of diet used more so than the the gear taken that will define "bulking" or "cutting".
Example: the 500mgs/week test e I recommended can be used for bulking OR cutting depending on the diet used.

 

[Dave_19]

Also if You find out that enathate is really strong for You, next time try sustanon. It's alot more slower acting.

Sustanon is not a good test for a beginner’s cycle, and it's not slower acting then enath, its 4 esters that all vary in half life. 30 mg propionate, 60 mg isocaproate, 60 mg as phenylpropionate, 100 mg decanoate. The fast acting ester's would be a waste if not injecting atleast EOD. Propionate is much faster acting the enath for example. Enath isn't measured in strength just half life, every thing is the same strength mg:mg that’s test. It’s about how slow it releases over time, and for a 1st cycle you would be better off with consistent test levels in the blood, then crazy fluctuated levels from sust.

Propionate would be the best test with the goals you stated. 100MG EOD would probably be a better choice then the 500mg/enath a week, especially if stacked with winstrol, then bloat should be an issue.