"First" Cycle advice please

[SqueezePlay]

I typed "first" because I'm finishing up an oral combination of Winstrol and Anavar that I took to combat the catabolic effects of T3, so I'm not completely a virgin to anabolics. I cut quite a bit of fat, but I'm still not quite where I want to be. I'm thinking about biting the bullet, and fighting my fear of needles to go on a test based "real" cycle with more T3/clen to finish cutting up, and add a few pounds. The winny/var combo gave me pretty bad calf cramps when I tried to jo, so my cardio was limited to low intensity biking or elliptical. The first response I'm sure is that I should tighten up my diet and get that cardio, and I agree, but I do want to end up with a little more mass in the process. The current program did just that, but oral administration isn't the most efficient means. I'm currently 30 years old, 5'10", 212lbs, at about 9-10% bodyfat. Which test ester and dose would you recommend and why? What other anabolics could/should I stack to maximize the cycle? What anciliaries and PCT do you suggest?

 

[Zuke]

500mg Test-E or Test-C. Run for 12 weeks.

 

[JohnnyPro]

500mg Test-E or Test-C. Run for 12 weeks.

Right, keep it simple. Test alone is great for a first cycle. 500 mgs a week would be good. Clomid and nolva for pct. Pct starts 2 to 3 weeks after last inject. By the way, needles are nothing to be scared of. They are so sharp you don't even feel it. Trust me, once you do it and see how easy it is, you will wonder what you were worried about.

 

[SqueezePlay]

How often do I inject? What about stuff like Arimidex? I didn't use it with the orals, as potency was pretty low.

 

[Anti_hero]

I think you will be fine with 500 one a week Test E or C shooting two times per week mon & thurs. No real need for adex. If you want you can keep some nolva on hand but I doubt you will need it. Pct Nolva and Clomid 2 weeks after last shot.

 

[terryd5150]

By the way, needles are nothing to be scared of. They are so sharp you don't even feel it. Trust me, once you do it and see how easy it is, you will wonder what you were worried about.

This is so true.


Good cycle advice, BTW, as well.

 

[chris88]

adding proviron to a test only cycle is a nice option. i've used test by itself, with and without proviron. I experienced a lot of the "normal" test side effects without it. with the proviron (same dose of test) the only side effect was frequent erections.

 

[elvisman99]

adding proviron to a test only cycle is a nice option. i've used test by itself, with and without proviron. I experienced a lot of the "normal" test side effects without it. with the proviron (same dose of test) the only side effect was frequent erections.

Did the proviron give you a leaner look ? I never used proviron with a cycle and im gonna try with my next cycle at 50mg's ED...

 

[chris88]

yes, i had less water retention. I used 600mg/week test with 50mg/day proviron. less acne too. for the most part, proviron is useless, but in certain applications, it works great. -a test only cycle is one of those applications. i shouldn't say it's useless, what i mean is, if you don't want to add winny or primo to a test cycle, proviron is an inexpensive alternative. test & winny will probably get you "drier" ...and more strength. of course, winny's much more toxic, well, you get the idea. chris

 

[Mini Monster]

This is so true.


Good cycle advice, BTW, as well.

Needles never did scare me, guess i'm lucky for that. I like the test to start with the smaller the dose the better you are. i still gain good on 500 a week from test ent.