Winny and Test

[MrPump]

I was thinking about running a 8 week cycle of Test and Winny.

The winny is 100mg/ml and so is the test. Any suggestions on a injection cycle. I know the winny needs to be done daily, but i am unsure about the test.

Any comments or suggestions are welcome. And i dont cry easily, so no need to shy.

 

[Zuke]

What ester is the test?

 

[balla06]

What ester is the test?

bump, need to know the ester for sure!!

 

[MrPump]

bump, need to know the ester for sure!!

I will find out and post tonight... I am at work right now. Obviously, I am new to this and I apprecaite the help.

 

[MrPump]

Ok... The Ester is E and its 250mg/ml

Any suggestions... I heard that 500mg a week is a good start. This being my first "real" cycle im a bit concerned and dont want to over do it.

As for the winny, im not a fan of an injection everyday, but you got to do what you go to do....

 

[Mini Monster]

since this is your first cycle, why not try this:

Test enathate:weeks 1-4 at 250mg

weeks 5-10 run the test at 500mg(two shots a week say tues & fri)

weeks 5-10 also run the winny at 50mg every other day

What post cycle thearpy do you have.
This is just me .

 

[Zuke]

Forget about starting at 250mg/wk then ramping it up. Also forget about the winny. Just do the following:

Weeks 1-10: 500mg/wk

That is all. Then do your PCT. Make sure you have some Nolva and Clomid on hand.

How old are you? What are your stats and goals?

 

[MrPump]

Stats:

5"9 - 210 - 22%BF , 32 years Old.

I have been lifting since I was 14, played college ball, just got out of shape after college. I have been training fairly hard for the past 3 years. I did a 4 week cycle of D-Bol in 05, made me strong as on ox, but my kidneys did not appreciate it. I have dropped about 25 pounds and 10% BF in the past 6 months.

I am considering waiting until i get down to 15-18% BF before starting the Test. My diet is in line and its just a matter of time before i get there.

Advice?

 

[MrPump]

Goals...

To see my abs again

Seriously, I want to get to 12-15% BF and be around 195-205.

I am sure the test will add weight, but from my understand (please note my understanding is very minimal, thats why i am asking questions) that the winny will help out and help me cut some of the extra BF and water weight off.

 

[Razzle Dazzle]

you can take both. if your diet is clean and you drink enough water the test shoukd actually make you leaner, at least it does for me as look as my diet is in check. and the winstrol is great for cutting fat just make sure you take enough of it. that is the problem i see with most people that say it doesnt work, thay are not taking it right

 

[marooned]

Take your cycle out to 10wks. Front load the Test. Inject at least twice a week. Add the Winny in later if you have too. I don't think it will do anything for burning fat, but it will dry you out. You will hold some water from the Test so run the Winny if you want and if your joints don't start to hurt. Make sure you have plenty of Nolvadex on hand in case you start to get symptoms of Gyno. Also for have all your PCT in your hand before starting.

If you are not going to run the Winny here is for Test only.
Wk 1. Test E-750mg, Front load 500mg in first shot and then 250mg
in second shot that week.
Wk 2-10. Test E-250mg every monday and thursday
Wk 13-16. Nolvadex20mg/ED

If you are going to run the Winny and pin EOD day I would recommend this.
Wk 1-10. Test E-First shot 550mg, after that 130mg/EOD
Wk 5-12. Winny-100mg/EOD
Wk 13-16 Nolvadex-20mg/day

Good Luck.