After 2 QV cycles, have lumps.

nfinitecc · Apr 13, 2007

Hey everyone this is my first post!

I joined becasue im about to get back in the game, when i was 19 i was 6' 3" only 160lbs, shitty i know. after working out about 3 months i started my first cycle. I took Tornel super test 250, 1cc twice a week for 10 weeks. after the cycle i used 6oxo and ended up about 185lbs. about 3 months later i started my 2nd cycle. QV DECA and QV super test 400, stacked 1cc ea. twice a week for 10 weeks. then i took 6 oxo again untill i ran out. now 8 months later im a healthy 200-210 BUT, i have developed lumps under both my nipples, they started out marble sized and round, now they have flatened out and feel like thin quarter sized disk's. They dont hurt unless you BANG em' but i figured this must have happened to someone else before. Any thoughts from the pros on how to get rid of these lumps? I blame it on the weak 6 oxo, i should have used something stronger. Any information would be extremely helpful!! Thanks guys

oldfella · Apr 13, 2007

nfinitecc said:
Hey everyone this is my first post!
I joined becasue im about to get back in the game, when i was 19 i was 6' 3" only 160lbs, shitty i know. after working out about 3 months i started my first cycle. I took Tornel super test 250, 1cc twice a week for 10 weeks. after the cycle i used 6oxo and ended up about 185lbs. about 3 months later i started my 2nd cycle. QV DECA and QV super test 400, stacked 1cc ea. twice a week for 10 weeks. then i took 6 oxo again untill i ran out. now 8 months later im a healthy 200-210 BUT, i have developed lumps under both my nipples, they started out marble sized and round, now they have flatened out and feel like thin quarter sized disk's. They dont hurt unless you BANG em' but i figured this must have happened to someone else before. Any thoughts from the pros on how to get rid of these lumps? I blame it on the weak 6 oxo, i should have used something stronger. Any information would be extremely helpful!! Thanks guys

You have what is called gynocomastia (bitch tits). If you have had them for a while the usually the only way to get rid of them is surgery. You can try Nolvadex or Arimidex but at this stage may not be of benefit. Now here comes the boring lecture. You were 19, trained all of about three months, then decided you could not get any further without drugs. I'm not riding you you bro but, that's fucking stupid!! Plain and simple. I am not flaming you or trying to insult you but what were you thinking???!!! Three months and you figure you are ready for aas. I'm sure someone talked you in to it! They should be in jail!! At 19 you had all the gear you wanted right in side of you and didn't even give your body a chance! Now your endocrine system is fucked up and you are starting to see the result of a very bad decision on your part. How old are you now????
My advice to you is stay away from gear until you know what you are doing and go and see a doctor about your gyno. While you are there you had better be straight up with him/her and come clean about your use. They will help you. It is their duty. Be prepared to hear just what I have told you. Take it on the chin and swallow your bitter pill! Then get back to training and eating properly. I could probably get you to around 225-250 wothout gear. So could lots of the pros on this board. You have not even tapped into your natural potential and you started playing craps with your health!

nfinitecc · Apr 14, 2007

yea i know, but have you ever seen a 6' 3" 150-160 lbs guy??? not pretty. but anyway i know i know...the fact is now i just take 2 shakes a day of cyto gainer, glucosamine (SP?), and a shitload of food. I'll admitt a buddy of mine during football got me into it. And i went to my doctor but told him i took over the counter Test boosters, hey my mom was there! He said that all that stuff about steriods and stuff causing estrogen like effects is the "stupid's shit he's ever heard" and they should go away in a year. At that point i lost all respect for him because EVERYONE cant be wrong. So my MAIN question is if i stop Test and keep working out, It's been 13 months since!! will these lumps continue to grow? they've been the same size for a while and the bigger my chest gets from working out the less you can feel them. Anyway i havent found the secret to my diet and cant seem to break 210-220 without help! Thanks guy for your advice I appreciate it!

nfinitecc · Apr 14, 2007

oh yea I'm 21 now. Just had my first son 3 weeks ago!!

joe914 · Apr 14, 2007

you didnt take a proper pct and thats what caused the gyno ...i suggest what old guy stated above to try and help get rid of your gyno ...or possibly letro ...and stay away from the gear ...just eat and train all out and once you reach your genetic max ...then start to look into gear ...and make sure you get a proper pct to go along with it ...

nfinitecc · Apr 14, 2007

yea i was told 6 oxo would be enough, i even used a little Novadex from GNC. but its weird cause for a few months after test i didnt have them, it was all of a sudden. I also have a full bottle of methyl masterdrol at home.

oldfella · Apr 14, 2007

nfinitecc said:
yea i was told 6 oxo would be enough, i even used a little Novadex from GNC. but its weird cause for a few months after test i didnt have them, it was all of a sudden. I also have a full bottle of methyl masterdrol at home.

It's POST CYCLE THERAPY. It is what most do after a cycle of AAS to kickstart your natural production of test. Like I said they may go away but then again......... Try it and see how you go. I understand your reason but it was still a bad decision to use and your so called buddy is an asshole! if you've had a son that's a great thing man. Congrats to you, if you value your health and want to have more kids stay away from gear and train hard. There are good supps out there to help you gain. Just do a bit if research and you will find what you are looking for! Good luck.