2nd cycle advice

[gen33]

Hello. I'm new to this forum but have been reading threads for awhile. Thanks for a great forum guys.

I'm building my second cycle. Previous cycle was
Test C 500mg/wk 1-13
Deca 300mg/wk 1-10

Great results with good PCT

Second cycle I want to try
Test C 500mg/wk 1-14
EQ 600mg/wk 1-14
Turanibol 50mg/dy 1-8

I don't want the bloat of deca during hot northeast summers.

Advice? I can post stats and more info if needed. Just basically want to know if I'm introducing too many compounds too quickly.

Thanks!

 

[oldfella]

Hello. I'm new to this forum but have been reading threads for awhile. Thanks for a great forum guys.

I'm building my second cycle. Previous cycle was
Test C 500mg/wk 1-13
Deca 300mg/wk 1-10

Great results with good PCT

Second cycle I want to try
Test C 500mg/wk 1-14
EQ 600mg/wk 1-14
Turanibol 50mg/dy 1-8

I don't want the bloat of deca during hot northeast summers.

Advice? I can post stats and more info if needed. Just basically want to know if I'm introducing too many compounds too quickly.

Thanks!

Dose of eq looks pretty high for only second cycle. So we look at total mgs p/wk and you are over 1.3gms! To me this is too high for only your second cycle. But that's only my opinion. I'm sure there are plenty here that would think this is quite alright!!! Maybe just run test and eq. Just lower the eq a bit. Keep your sodium intake down and you should not bloat! Also get some digestive enzymes if you are prone to bloating. This will help!!

 

[gen33]

Thanks for the feedback

What do you suggest for digestive enzymes?

I did bloat quite a bit last time - but that may have been the deca. I took .25 mg a-dex every other day but still got very swole esp towards the end of cycle

 

[oldfella]

Thanks for the feedback

What do you suggest for digestive enzymes?

I did bloat quite a bit last time - but that may have been the deca. I took .25 mg a-dex every other day but still got very swole esp towards the end of cycle

Contact Phil Hernon, he can get you some good enzymes. i got them from him.

 

[terryd5150]

Too much EQ...

Hello. I'm new to this forum but have been reading threads for awhile. Thanks for a great forum guys.

I'm building my second cycle. Previous cycle was
Test C 500mg/wk 1-13
Deca 300mg/wk 1-10

Great results with good PCT

Second cycle I want to try
Test C 500mg/wk 1-14
EQ 600mg/wk 1-14Turanibol 50mg/dy 1-8

I don't want the bloat of deca during hot northeast summers.

Advice? I can post stats and more info if needed. Just basically want to know if I'm introducing too many compounds too quickly.

Thanks!

If this is your second cycle, try starting at 300mgs/wk. After it kicks in if your blood pressure is still ok maybe bump it to 400 mgs/wk.

 

[ALLEX]

I agree on the eq up to 400mg. 2 months on orals seems a lot for a second cycle. I'd do 30-40mg for the first 4 weeks only...

 

[gen33]

Thanks guys! Appreciate all the responses! I'll let you know if I have more questions.

 

[STEEDA69]

If this is your second cycle, try starting at 300mgs/wk. After it kicks in if your blood pressure is still ok maybe bump it to 400 mgs/wk.

Hey Terry5150! Clear some of your PM's. I have a quick question concerning your comments!

Thanks

JD~

 

[gen33]

After more research, revised 2nd cycle for comments:

1-4 tbol 35 mg/day
1-14 Test C 500 mg/wk
1-13 EQ 400 mg/wk
13-17 tbol 35/day

So I'm thinking of a tbol start and end. I've found good info that ending on an oral is a good bridge to pct...and a long break between using the oral shouldn't be too hard on the liver...

I'll probably run hcg during cycle 2x a week, a-dex during if needed, and pct with nolva +/- aromasin.

Thanks for everyone's help.

 

[Dad]

STILL way too high on ALL proposed drugs, and way too long, as was the first cycle by wide margin.

I get the feeling that any anti-estrogen/PCT is considered a sort of trifling after thought and not worried about or planned for much.

The pattern should be the opposite of what yuo propose by having much lower drug dosages for much shorter periods of time, with anti-estrogens and PCT well planned out.

 

[gen33]

OK, do appreciate the feedback.

The doses seems pretty standard for most starting cycles I've seen...and comparable to my first cycle. Do you recommend less than 35/day of tbol (or no tbol at all?)...and less than the 500/400 test/EQ?

pct is not an afterthought. Here are details. I had good success first time with:

250 iu hcg qd x 3 weeks started 5 days after last test shot; vit E 1000 iu.
2 weeks after last test shot started tamox 20 mg day qd x 30 days.
ran 0.5mg a-dex every other day during cycle and for 2 weeks after last test shot (then switched to tamox)

next time I do want to add aromasin to tamox because acne and bloat got out of control during pct, so i think i need stronger anti-e during pct. no problems during cycle, just after.

also want to do hcg 250 (or 500?) 2x per week during cycle as testicular atrophy was very noticeable and somewhat embarrrassing at times lol...long story. I am admittedly still researching how to do this properly.

again I certainly appreciate any continued feedback. i'm here to listen and learn.

 

[gen33]

Also, in case it helps here are my stats:

31 yo
185lbs.
5'10
12% bf
3 years of real training experience, often with a personal trainer. Previous weight-lifting was not goal oriented

Hope to gain 15 lbs, keep at least 10. Hope to end with bf no higher than 14-15%. Based on the results of my last cycle that seems reasonable.

respectfully,