Balkan Pharmaceuticals Cycle Log

[fletch_belfast]

As far as I could see no-one had done a cycle-log for these products yet, so I thought I would do one, both for current and future reference for those who want to know how well the products worked.

Ill be running:

Balkan Anapolon: 50mg for the first 5 weeks (or 6 depending how I feel)
Balkan Test E: 500mg for 10 weeks
Balkan Deca: 200mg for 10 weeks (would have been 400mg, but I had some cash (om)nicked....)

I seem to be gyno prone, and Nolvadex just wont cut it for me, and Letro was a bit much, so ill be starting out on 0.5mg (0.5ml) of Ad-Stealth Arimidex, and if necessary increasing to 1mg per day.

Today and tomorrow (sat and sun) the Anapolon will be just 25mg to get my liver ready for what is to come, then 50mg for 5 (or 6) weeks thereafter.

My first injections will be done in half an hour or so, and i'll report on any pain I experience in the days after.

The only thing I can say right now (which has already been said by others) is that the tops on the vials are pretty cheap and break easily. Of course this is merely a cosmetic problem and doesnt affect the gear in any way, the rubber stopper is still fine.

Pics, meal plan, and current stats to follow.

 

[ozzyb]

I'm interested to see how this goes. Thanks for being willing to share.

 

[fletch_belfast]

Right heres some pics.

These are before and after shots (about 8 weeks into a 10 week cycle actually) of my first cycle, Ad-Stealth Sustanon. The before shot is me at 168lbs, and the after is me at 194lbs. I peaked at about 204 or something but now im through PCT ive settled at 193 so I think the after pic illustrates well enough where im at now.

I coulda done better but like I said in the first post, the Letro was a bit much and hindered my gains by quite a lot I think when I started taking it.

Anyway, hopefully in 10 weeks time Ill be able to add another pic to that lineup where im at least 230

I know I put on a bit of a gut on that cycle, but I was enjoying myself and eating lots of ice-cream and junk, Lee Priest style. Cardio will be done regularly on this cycle (like 3 or 4 times a week, 40mins)

Measurements to follow later tonight.

 

[fr8lnr01]

You're shooting for the stars at 230. You have got a lot of weight to lose. You need to adjust your diet to get more appropriate calories. Try to add more complex carbohydrates(brown rice, oatmeal, sweet potatoes) as opposed to the simple "shit" you are eating. If you run the cycle well don't be surprised to end up at 204 again. You will look bigger and better if you were a little more lean. Just my opinion.

Good luck, bro.

 

[balla06]

You're shooting for the stars at 230. You have got a lot of weight to lose. You need to adjust your diet to get more appropriate calories. Try to add more complex carbohydrates(brown rice, oatmeal, sweet potatoes) as opposed to the simple "shit" you are eating. If you run the cycle well don't be surprised to end up at 204 again. You will look bigger and better if you were a little more lean. Just my opinion.

Good luck, bro.

agree, i would lose some of the weight u got before even running the cycle period!! whats ur body fat bro? not tryin to be a dick in any way man but the biggest improvement that i saw that grew was ur belly and i mean that with no pune intented. lose some weight re evaluate ur diet and then go at it. u will be more please with results

good luck brutha!

 

[Sampson]

Try not to be too focused with just weight, I think you will look twice as big if you can trim that waist down which will be harder to do on your proposed cycle.

 

[rotty]

Balla...Where you been bro haven't seen you around in a while...Definitely lose weight before doing another cycle and as far as Lee Preist style....you're not Lee Preist or anywhere near him so don't try to be like him and do the things that he does. Its like something that your mother might have said, if he jumped off a building would you. Steroids are NOT a short cut, they are a supplement. I don't want to sound like an asshole but don't just jump on shit just to do it. If you had posted your pics before you would have been told to wait and save your money. Invest in food and a good trainer. It looks like you should have 25 pounds or so at least, then tried to bulk up eating right before you did anything. Hire a trainer, there are some good ones on here and get your diet in check. You will be amazed at how well just changing your diet works. Again, sorry if I sound like an asshole

 

[Down]

As far as I could see no-one had done a cycle-log for these products yet, so I thought I would do one, both for current and future reference for those who want to know how well the products worked.

Ill be running:

Balkan Anapolon: 50mg for the first 5 weeks (or 6 depending how I feel)
Balkan Test E: 500mg for 10 weeks
Balkan Deca: 200mg for 10 weeks (would have been 400mg, but I had some cash (om)nicked....)
I seem to be gyno prone, and Nolvadex just wont cut it for me, and Letro was a bit much, so ill be starting out on 0.5mg (0.5ml) of Ad-Stealth Arimidex, and if necessary increasing to 1mg per day.

Today and tomorrow (sat and sun) the Anapolon will be just 25mg to get my liver ready for what is to come, then 50mg for 5 (or 6) weeks thereafter.

My first injections will be done in half an hour or so, and i'll report on any pain I experience in the days after.

The only thing I can say right now (which has already been said by others) is that the tops on the vials are pretty cheap and break easily. Of course this is merely a cosmetic problem and doesnt affect the gear in any way, the rubber stopper is still fine.

Pics, meal plan, and current stats to follow.

Omnicked... dude fucking hilarious... good luck with the cycle.

 

[balla06]

Balla...Where you been bro haven't seen you around in a while...Definitely lose weight before doing another cycle and as far as Lee Preist style....you're not Lee Preist or anywhere near him so don't try to be like him and do the things that he does. Its like something that your mother might have said, if he jumped off a building would you. Steroids are NOT a short cut, they are a supplement. I don't want to sound like an asshole but don't just jump on shit just to do it. If you had posted your pics before you would have been told to wait and save your money. Invest in food and a good trainer. It looks like you should have 25 pounds or so at least, then tried to bulk up eating right before you did anything. Hire a trainer, there are some good ones on here and get your diet in check. You will be amazed at how well just changing your diet works. Again, sorry if I sound like an asshole

whats up brutha, jus been stayin in the clear dog!! too much bullshit goin down lately ya feel me but ima be around more often haha gotta get back in the swing of things for sure!

 

[fletch_belfast]

k, about the belly, and im not just saying this, it gets really swollen with all the food I eat, plus standing under that light isnt very flattering at all. Plus a complete lack of ab training doesnt help.

I have no idea what my BF is, never been tested. And im not trying to be Lee Priest, I clearly dont have his genes, it was merely a comparison as to how he eats off-season and the state he lets himself get into.

Its hard to make people understand my philosophy on this, but i'll lose the weight whenever I feel like it, to be blunt. I dont live in california, so having chiseled wash-board abs isnt like a requirement for residence where I live. Im just happily eating and training the way that fits my lifestyle at the minute.

Like I said, there will be cardio and cardio in abundance this cycle, compared to the last one, and I honestly dont think 230lbs is 'reaching for the stars'.

Trust me, I know what im doing.

Current measurements:
Height: 5'7"
Weight: 193lbs
Arms: 16.5"
Forearms: 13"
Chest: 43"
Waist: 39"
Calf: 16"
Quad: 22"

 

[fletch_belfast]

Did the first injections earlier today.

The Test E was plain sailing, the usual minor discomfort but all went well.

The Deca on the other hand had a bit of a sting to it, definitely different from the Test. It didnt help that I drew blood first time I aspirated, then changed needles and went for a side delt shot and hit a nerve.... Then back to the ass and got it done that time. Really only got half a ml after all that. All fun and games.

 

[fletch_belfast]

how long have you been lifting???

About...........7 years, on and off.

 

[Dr.S]

Dong

k, about the belly, and im not just saying this, it gets really swollen with all the food I eat, plus standing under that light isnt very flattering at all. Plus a complete lack of ab training doesnt help.

I have no idea what my BF is, never been tested. And im not trying to be Lee Priest, I clearly dont have his genes, it was merely a comparison as to how he eats off-season and the state he lets himself get into.

Its hard to make people understand my philosophy on this, but i'll lose the weight whenever I feel like it, to be blunt. I dont live in california, so having chiseled wash-board abs isnt like a requirement for residence where I live. Im just happily eating and training the way that fits my lifestyle at the minute.

Like I said, there will be cardio and cardio in abundance this cycle, compared to the last one, and I honestly dont think 230lbs is 'reaching for the stars'.

Trust me, I know what im dong.

Current measurements:
Height: 5'7"
Weight: 193lbs
Arms: 16.5"
Forearms: 13"
Chest: 43"
Waist: 39"
Calf: 16"
Quad: 22"

Bro, you may very well know what you're dong, but you sure as heck don't know what you're doing

Please, please take what I am going to say as a helpful and constructive critique rather than just ripping into you.

First off-- you waist is 39 inches at 193 lbs-- that is INSANE. It's been many years since I've used gear and in my early 20's remember thinking I was really pushing things and getting too bloated when my waist hit the 36-37 inch range. However, I weighed 265 lbs at the time. It's one thing to eat some occasional junk food while "bulking", but you're headed to an unhealthy place. You are fat already (there, I said it...sorry), and you're looking to add a gram of gear on top of that?! I can only imagine what your blood pressure reading will be, not mention kidney and LFT.

The first thing that popped in my head when seeing the before and after pics is "wow, he didn't gain any muscle-- just fat". You may need to re-vamp both your diet and lifting programs. I used to dirty bulk---but if you eat crap, you'll end up looking like crap and feeling like crap. A sound nutrition program will add more quality weight while keeping bf down--- digestion will be much better.

I don't post much anymore, but this seems like a good time to jump in--- I could add more, but I'm hoping some other guys will add their $.02-- as a couple already have. Remember-- most folks on this board really are here to help.


Dr.S.....

 

[Uluwatu]

Fletch...As was said before you need to revamp your diet and nutrition, before you continue with this next cycle. The pics you posted looked like you gained more fat than muscle. I am not really sure what your goals are I am not trying to be a dick or mean, but get your diet in check. If you continue on the path you are on, you will be a very fat 230lbs, and I don't think that is what you want. There are a lot of guys and girls on this board who can help you with your diet and nutrition. Look them up and spend the money for their advice rather than spending it on more gear.

 

[tatteredxangelx]

it is my recommendation that you forget about the gear and focus on weight loss for half a year.

 

[rotty]

Dude judging by your pics and stats you don't know what the fuck you're doing and it doesn't matter where you live I can see that you can't lose the weight whenever you want. If that was the case you would have started a cycle when you were already lean, not fat. Yes you do look a little bigger in the after photos but you also look fatter. Like you said, you aren't Lee Preist and he does lose the weight when he wants and gets into competition shape. I can't see you doing that. No offense but if you lost 25-30 pounds, before juice, you would have seen how unmuscular you are .

 

[fletch_belfast]

Bro, you may very well know what you're dong, but you sure as heck don't know what you're doing

Please, please take what I am going to say as a helpful and constructive critique rather than just ripping into you.

First off-- you waist is 39 inches at 193 lbs-- that is INSANE. It's been many years since I've used gear and in my early 20's remember thinking I was really pushing things and getting too bloated when my waist hit the 36-37 inch range. However, I weighed 265 lbs at the time. It's one thing to eat some occasional junk food while "bulking", but you're headed to an unhealthy place. You are fat already (there, I said it...sorry), and you're looking to add a gram of gear on top of that?! I can only imagine what your blood pressure reading will be, not mention kidney and LFT.

The first thing that popped in my head when seeing the before and after pics is "wow, he didn't gain any muscle-- just fat". You may need to re-vamp both your diet and lifting programs. I used to dirty bulk---but if you eat crap, you'll end up looking like crap and feeling like crap. A sound nutrition program will add more quality weight while keeping bf down--- digestion will be much better.

I don't post much anymore, but this seems like a good time to jump in--- I could add more, but I'm hoping some other guys will add their $.02-- as a couple already have. Remember-- most folks on this board really are here to help.


Dr.S.....

Strange, im usually very careful with my spelling but I was really tired last night.

I appreciate everybodys honest opinions (aka negative feedback ) but I really do know what im doing here.

And I think im giving the wrong impression about my diet, I hardly ever eat junk food, I just have the occasional Mars bar if and when I want one. How can people judge my diet when I havnt even posted it yet...? So here it is:

Breakfast:

Bowl of Shreddies and skimmed milk
2 slices brown toast and strawberry jam
Protein shake with water
Total: Protein= 75g Carbs=129 Cal=1114

Lunch:

3 Chicken Breasts
2 Boiled eggs
Total: Protein= 90g Carbs= ? Cal=? (ill update this, cos I dumped the packaging with the info on)

Post Workout Shake:
Consisting of Milk a Yoghurt and 2.5 scoops of Whey
Total: Protein= 64g Carbs=42 Cal= 490

Snack:
Tesco Cod in white wine sauce
A bowl of honey Shreddies (Little post workout treat)
Total: Protein= 66.8 Carbs=91.2 Cal=824

Evening Meal:
Tesco Chicken in white sauce
Total: Protein= 58.6 Carbs=1.6 Cal=520

Snack:
Tin of John West Tuna (in sunflower oil for taste purposes)
Total: Protein= 35.2 Carbs=trace Cal=246

Day Totals:
Protein: 389.6g
Carbs: 263.8g
Calories: 3194

 

[rotty]

Bro, hire a trainer. Someone that can really help you get to your goals. Do you know what your maintenance cals are? Do you have any pics of when you were lean, like this past summer. You need to know how many calories and what type ratios you need at every meal. I don't mean to sound like a dick but you really don't know what you're doing. 3000 calories might be too much for you right now. I honestly think you need to diet down before you try and bulk up. You are carrying too much fat, I'm not trying to insult you, I just don't want you to waste your money. Seriously hire a trainer. Phil charges like 250, I think DC is like 400. I don't even know who else around here is training these days. Honestly hire someone. They will have a lot more knowledge than you and can tell you where to make adjustments. It will be a lot more effective than doing a $600 cycle and eating shit foods and putting on fat. I wouldn't be happy with the gains you made on that cycle if I was you. If you are hell bent on using stuff, get some GH.

 

[qwerty_uk]

Balkan Anapolon: 50mg for the first 5 weeks (or 6 depending how I feel)
Balkan Test E: 500mg for 10 weeks
Balkan Deca: 200mg for 10 weeks

Anapolon 5/6 weeks, why? Max 4 weeks
Test E: 500mg, 250 else your just risking more bloat for not much reason.

I'd personally leave out the Anapolon and go for a low dose of winstrol.

Calories: 3194 at best probably slightly over your maintenance level. Lower it at least by 500 cals; If you want wash board abs or not why would you want lots of fat, you may look bigger with your top on, but you would look a lot better if you dropped at least 1 stone of fat.

 

[OuchThatHurts]

You put yourself out there on this one which takes balls. I can not recommend finding a trainer highly enough but since you aren't going that route, I guess lecturing you won't help. I see some size increase in your pics and assume the size was accompanied by some strength? Tell you this though: 5'7, 230 is going to be pretty damn heavy. I'm sort of built like you most of the time so I know what you're going through to some extent. I don't have the midsection that you do and that is what I'm concerned about. That's a clear sign of a lack of core strength, high cortisol levels, and excess estrogen from aromatization. That lack of core strength will hurt your strength gains because it will prevent you from going all out on your major movements. And those are what give you growth. Some of the above is good advice but some is probably just twerps aspiring to become Joe Lifegaurd with a nice six-pack and a beautiful bronze tan. Not that there's anything wrong with that per se, but it's just not a look that everyone has to achieve.

If I were you? I'd try to shoot as if I were trying to stay within a 200lb weight class. At 5'7, 200lbs, you would certainly be a big boy and you could put on huge amounts of strength and lean body mass within that weight range.

What you should perhaps consider (or fear maybe) is that you do hit your 230lb goal and then you look at yourself and realize that you're a back-sprain away from being just another fat guy! Like me!

I'd stay on what you already started since the compounds you chose will allow you to retain almost all your existing muscle and strength while going on a major calorie restriction. Which you clearly must do. None of this Lee Priest bulking bullshit. Keep your diet ratio majorly protein-heavy. Cycle your carbs and just maintain a very moderate amount of fats. Add some cardio for your health. Right now for you that cardio is every bit as important as any set of squats. For me, I watch my cardio performance closely and if I start showing decreased capacity, then I switch over to high volume training and wait for cardio to improve or get back to where it was.

You gotta lot of work to do brother. Have fun!