First cycle

[Doomed Messiah]

This person I know is considering this as his first cycle

Week 1 to 13: 10mg Nolvadex daily
Week 1 to 10: 400mg of EQ weekly
Week 1 to 10: 500mg TEST weekly
Week 13 - 40mg nolva+ 100mg clomid daily
Week 14 - 30mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily
Week 15 - 20mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily

He is 25 been training for 4 and a half years/5'8'/180lbs/12% BF diet is in check just lacking the LBAs, and is looking to gain 20lbs of muscle with this cycle. Any advice would be greatly appreciated

 

[Quad-smack]

Someone who is 25 should wait another 3 years minimum IMO.
Ideally, it would be best to start with 1/2 that amount of test and drop everything else except the PCT which looks pretty good.
With proper training, nutrition and recuperation he should be able to gain 20lbs in that time frame - esp as a 1st timer.

 

[pesty4077]

IMO, way too much, Start out at 250mg test only, add novadex only if needed, do for 12 weeks. The Diet will put on muscle along with a good training program. Ask your friend if he knows what putting on 20 pounds of muscle even looks like. He won't IMO, even with his cycle, he could however put on 20 pounds of fat, water and muscle in that time.

 

[tkav1980]

cut the eq drop the test to 250 and hire phil hernon.

 

[njpooldude]

This person I know is considering this as his first cycle

Week 1 to 13: 10mg Nolvadex daily
Week 1 to 10: 400mg of EQ weekly
Week 1 to 10: 500mg TEST weekly
Week 13 - 40mg nolva+ 100mg clomid daily
Week 14 - 30mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily
Week 15 - 20mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily

He is 25 been training for 4 and a half years/5'8'/180lbs/12% BF diet is in check just lacking the LBAs, and is looking to gain 20lbs of muscle with this cycle. Any advice would be greatly appreciated

If ya cut the test to 250mg weekly which i think you should do, and just run only that. you will be very happy... dont be AFFRAID to eat man... eat, eat and eat some more..

Now with the left over test and EQ you have your 2nd cycle ready to go when u are

Most important.. HAVE FUN!! dont get too serious with yourself... i did and i wasnt having fun anymore... keep the balance

 

[Doomed Messiah]

Thank you all for critiquing the cycle. I will definetley let him know that he should do the 250mg test ONLY and of course PCT and Nolvadex only if needed, and im am certain thats what he will definetley do.

 

[doitright]

x however many people already said it.

use test only and drop to 250.

 

[Silver4Judas]

250 & PCT

 

[Malic777.com]

id do one proper cycle and get all the gains i want from one single cycle and not 2 or 3 , maybe, overcautiously low dosed ones...each cycle messes around with the HPTA...just my opinion...alex

 

[Mash1]

cut the eq drop the test to 250 and hire phil hernon.

Hahaha I love this guy's posts.