using clenbuterol w/ first cycle

[SacToSD]

Hi, I'm going onto TRT but might also be considering clenbuterol while on my cycle. Is this going to be something that will help, or hurt my cycle? Anyone have any experience with this? I've heard of lean bulking cycles (cutters), where you just don't eat everything in sight but still get enough protein (1.5 g's/lb bodyweight). Is this an alternative? Or should I do the clen? Thanks bros

 

[SacToSD]

oops a duplicate

 

[6.8SPC]

Wu-Tang Clen

Hi, I'm going onto TRT but might also be considering clenbuterol while on my cycle. Is this going to be something that will help, or hurt my cycle? Anyone have any experience with this? I've heard of lean bulking cycles (cutters), where you just don't eat everything in sight but still get enough protein (1.5 g's/lb bodyweight). Is this an alternative? Or should I do the clen? Thanks bros

When you say you're going on TRT but then mention adding clenbuterol to your cycle, what do you mean by this? That you're adding other compounds/higher dosages to a TRT program? Or is TRT your 'cycle'? Please clarify. Back to the original question, you hinted at the answer yourself when you said not eating everything in sight. The results you are after can be obtained by proper nutrition. Eating clean proteins, low glycemic carbs and healthy fats in the right ratios will get you the results you're seeking. I don't have a favorable opinion of clenbuterol and I think in most cases it is better not to use it. If you must use a beta-agonist or a stimulant, I would go with an OTC like the ECA stack or something similar. These are safer than clen IMO, but then again:

"Banned Drug May Aid in Treating Heart Failure"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19033358/

but then this:

Myotoxic effects of clenbuterol in the rat heart and soleus muscle.

Burniston JG, Ng Y, Clark WA, Colyer J, Tan LB, Goldspink DF.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12381771

So really, it's up to you, but if you can acheive results without using a drug whose safety record is "iffy" at best, then why take an unnecessary risk? Peace. :action-sm

 

[oldfella]

When you say you're going on TRT but then mention adding clenbuterol to your cycle, what do you mean by this? That you're adding other compounds/higher dosages to a TRT program? Or is TRT your 'cycle'? Please clarify. Back to the original question, you hinted at the answer yourself when you said not eating everything in sight. The results you are after can be obtained by proper nutrition. Eating clean proteins, low glycemic carbs and healthy fats in the right ratios will get you the results you're seeking. I don't have a favorable opinion of clenbuterol and I think in most cases it is better not to use it. If you must use a beta-agonist or a stimulant, I would go with an OTC like the ECA stack or something similar. These are safer than clen IMO, but then again:

"Banned Drug May Aid in Treating Heart Failure"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19033358/

but then this:

Myotoxic effects of clenbuterol in the rat heart and soleus muscle.

Burniston JG, Ng Y, Clark WA, Colyer J, Tan LB, Goldspink DF.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12381771

So really, it's up to you, but if you can acheive results without using a drug whose safety record is "iffy" at best, then why take an unnecessary risk? Peace. :action-sm

Yes! Good post 6.8!!

 

[SacToSD]

When you say you're going on TRT but then mention adding clenbuterol to your cycle, what do you mean by this? That you're adding other compounds/higher dosages to a TRT program? Or is TRT your 'cycle'? Please clarify. Back to the original question, you hinted at the answer yourself when you said not eating everything in sight. The results you are after can be obtained by proper nutrition. Eating clean proteins, low glycemic carbs and healthy fats in the right ratios will get you the results you're seeking. I don't have a favorable opinion of clenbuterol and I think in most cases it is better not to use it. If you must use a beta-agonist or a stimulant, I would go with an OTC like the ECA stack or something similar. These are safer than clen IMO, but then again:

"Banned Drug May Aid in Treating Heart Failure"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19033358/



but then this:

Myotoxic effects of clenbuterol in the rat heart and soleus muscle.

Burniston JG, Ng Y, Clark WA, Colyer J, Tan LB, Goldspink DF.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12381771

So really, it's up to you, but if you can acheive results without using a drug whose safety record is "iffy" at best, then why take an unnecessary risk? Peace. :action-sm

Nice post! Informative, to the point, and unbiased. You're a good bro. To your questions, "my cycle" could range from 200-400 mg test e per week, given how testosterone deficient I am. I'm waiting to speak with the prescribing physician, pending results of new bloodwork at the end of the week. We'll see how that goes. Let's say I did use 500 mg of test e per week... just brainstorming here, but I haven't been able to locate any contraindications for testosterone and beta-agonists. I would think that there would be some evidence to support not taking test e w/ clen, given that test e raises blood pressure and a stimulant like clen would probably raise the bp much higher. Only guessing, here, but that's my opinion.