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Overpriced crap. If you're going to go with a legal OTC, go with one of the widely tested and used one's that you can get a month's supply worth for $20-25:

h-drol/halodrol clone, m-drol/superdrol, epistane/havoc, pheraplex/p-plex
 
The first is a Max LMG and Pheraplex mix.

The second being a 14AD and "Tren" mix.

Have you done any PH's /designer steroids before?

Here's a fantastic write-up on Havoc/Epistane, one of the more popular new supplements: **broken link removed**

I'm trying to find some for h-drol, x-mass, and p-plex.
 
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in my opinion the three best pro-hormones out arer trenadrol, massdrol (kilo sports) and this new one out called dymethazine(4get who makes it). the dymethazine is actually a real steroid that was discontinued in the 60s so when they did the pro-hormone ban in 2005 no one knew about it because it just just resurfaced. Its actually called dimethazine in nthe Anabolics 2009 book. All three of these products have great prices. But if i were youjust do your research and find out people opinions and do your homework. But dont go spending ridiclious amounts of money on any pro-hormone out,just not worth it. Theres plenty of good ones between 30-50$ out there. Good luck
 

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