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Are my conclusions correct?

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After reading this article/thread...

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/beginners-forum/41882-massive-newbie-info.html

It seems that Nolvadex would be beneficial regardless of being on or off of a cycle. Could Nolvadex be taken as often as a person feels necessary? I think, based on the results of the articles tests, that it very well could be beneficial off cycle. Now don't get me wrong, I know that AAS increases your hormones significantly but w/o being on cycle it can't really hurt.

Any thoughts?
 
I agree with the statement below. In addition, nolvadex has side effects too...elevated liver enzymes, visual damage, lower igf 1, negative effect on lipid profile and so on. Why take it if you do not have too??

That's rediculous. Don't take meds u don't need.
 
I was looking at the overall increase in testosterone mainly. I think it was 146% above normal levels.
 
"I am not sure how Clomid and Nolvadex became so separated in the minds of bodybuilders. They certainly should not be. Clomid and Nolvadex are both anti-estrogens belonging to the same group of triphenylethylene compounds. They are structurally related and specifically classified as selective estrogen receptor modulators (SERMs) with mixed agonistic and antagonistic properties. This means that in certain tissues they can block the effects of estrogen, by altering the binding capacity of the receptor, while in others they can act as actual estrogens, activating the receptor. In men, both of these drugs act as anti-estrogens in their capacity to oppose the negative feedback of estrogens on the hypothalamus and stimulate the heightened release of GnRH (Gonadotropin Releasing Hormone). LH output by the pituitary will be increased as a result, which in turn can increase the level of testosterone by the testes. Both drugs do this, but for some reason bodybuilders persist in thinking that Clomid is the only drug good at stimulating testosterone. What you will find with a little investigation however is that not only is Nolvadex useful for the same purpose, it should actually be the preferred agent of the two.

Studies conducted in the late 1970's at the University of Ghent in Belgium make clear the advantages of using Nolvadex instead of Clomid for increasing testosterone levels (1). Here, researchers looked the effects of Nolvadex and Clomid on the endocrine profiles of normal men, as well as those suffering from low sperm counts (oligospermia). For our purposes, the results of these drugs on hormonally normal men are obviously the most relevant. What was found, just in the early parts of the study, was quite enlightening. Nolvadex, used for 10 days at a dosage of 20mg daily, increased serum testosterone levels to 142% of baseline, which was on par with the effect of 150mg of Clomid daily for the same duration (the testosterone increase was slightly, but not significantly, better for Clomid). We must remember though that this is the effect of three 50mg tablets of Clomid. With the price of both a 50mg Clomid and 20mg Nolvadex typically very similar, we are already seeing a cost vs. results discrepancy forming that strongly favors the Nolvadex side. "

This is that part I was looking at.
 
Low dose exemestane would be a better choice. It doesn't significantly impact lipids, reduces triglycerides, increases igf-1 and testosterone levels.
 
^ do you think its safe for a person to stay on exemestane year around?
 
Well, I'm on HRT year round. So, for me - yes. All my blood tests have been good - since I quit experimenting with "synthetics".
 
I was looking at the overall increase in testosterone mainly. I think it was 146% above normal levels.


146 percent wont do shit. lousy trade off for the possible sides. not worth it imo.
 

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