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bd1 · Oct 13, 2004

Hey folks...

Just joined the other day and really like what I see over here. It's nice to see such educated BBer's helping one another out.

I was hoping to get a little help in the cycle department, and have a general plan laid out, just don't know exactly how I want to do it.

First - I'm late 20s, 6'5" and about 255lbs. I've done 6-7 cycles dating back to when I was 19 (compounds used include test, fina, winstrol, var, test susp, deca, halo, gh). I'd like to get a little lean mass, and bring out some lagging bodyparts, all the while keeping the bloat and bodyfat away.

About this cycle - I get really bloated on more than 700mg of test, and although I've been up to 280lbs or so, I didn't like myself at that weight, and therefore my goal is 260lbs, and 12% or so - thus the dosages as follows:

Weeks 1-16 - Test @ 350mg/week
Weeks 1-6; 11-16 - winstrol @ 50mg/day
Weeks 7-16 - anavar @ 30mg/day
Weeks 1-10 - EQ @ 500mg/week
Letrozole @ 2.5mg/day for weeks 1-19
clomid @ 50mg/day for weeks 17-19

I have a few thoughts on this -
- is the stop for 4 weeks on the winstrol unnecessary? Am I overthinking this and just complicating things? Should I just move everything up a little and shorten the cycle?
- I was thinking of adding fina in for weeks 1-8 at 75mg/ED - is this overkill with test and EQ in there already?
- someone suggested proviron to me, which I've never done before. I researched a little and found some differing opinions on its efficacy and overall usefullness. Any reason to add it?

I feel like I'm getting to fancy with this and really overthinking things on this one - too many compounds or something.

Thanks for your thoughts, and looking forward to picking up more knowledge.

...bd

xcelbeyond · Oct 14, 2004

Welcome!

Some questions and observations:

What type of test are you using?

Why 2.5mg letrozole ED? Do you realize this compound really messes up your lipid profile? I'm very prone to e-related gyno and 1.25mg ED works fine for me and that's using 1g test/wk. I'm gonna try that much EOD and see if it'll work.

Prop, tren and EQ are a nice cycle. I always stack tren with winny - for the progesterone receptor competition, for what it's worth.

I'd save the proviron for pre-contest as it's a good hardener and poor anti-e.

bd1 · Oct 15, 2004

Thanks for your reply.

I'm using 350mg test enanthate.

I agree with you on the proviron (although I don't compete), so I'm discluding that from the list. Thanks for your comment on the Letro - I was thinking 2.5mg a day I guess from that last cycle I did - then again, that was over a gram a week of test so maybe that was acceptable - this one is obviously a little different. Something I was thinking - do you think Aromasin or Armidex would be a better option in this case?

Funny you mentioned it, I was thinking of adding fina as well, and additionally, considering simplifying things a bit - along this route:

(this overlaps)
weeks 1-16 - 350 test
weeks 1-10 - 500 EQ
weeks 7-16 - 50mg/day winstrol, 75mg/day tren, 30mg var/day
1.25mg letro throughout, (*or alternative anti-aromatase?)

*or*
Maybe I'll just run the fina the whole time?

*or* maybe simplify my life and just do test, EQ, winny for 8 weeks, followed by test, tren, var for 8 weeks?

(btw - I've never had any issue with the purported progesterone aromitization of fina, so making sure that winstrol is involved isn't 100% necessary.)

Thanks again for your input.

...bd

Nemesis79 · Oct 15, 2004

bd

hey hey browndog welcome aboard I just joined this place too.

lotta good info and good bros

Nemesis79 · Oct 15, 2004

Prop, tren and EQ are a nice cycle. I always stack tren with winny - for the progesterone receptor competition, for what it's worth.

I'd save the proviron for pre-contest as it's a good hardener and poor anti-e.[/QUOTE]

My next cycle should encompass tren winny and primo..I can't wait only did winny once..and loved it

OH Bd i almost forgot why not throw in a .25 mg of arimidex in there..I know your test is a low dosage but still its' worth the add in.
Perhaps i'm wrong correct me if I am.

bd1 · Oct 15, 2004

Nemesis79 said:
My next cycle should encompass tren winny and primo..I can't wait only did winny once..and loved it

OH Bd i almost forgot why not throw in a .25 mg of arimidex in there..I know your test is a low dosage but still its' worth the add in.
Perhaps i'm wrong correct me if I am.

I was going to go with the Letrozole instead. Any reason to switch it to Armidex?

...bd

xcelbeyond · Oct 15, 2004

bd1 said:
I was going to go with the Letrozole instead. Any reason to switch it to Armidex?

Letrozole and Anastozole (Arimidex) are both anti-aromatase and both have very similar effects on LDL. I prefer letrozole as it has purported benefits of substantially increasing IGF-1 over anastrozole. I seem to stay drier on letrozole too.