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I am at a loss for will. I just cant find myself-- I thought I had it all figured out. As a child, my dreams my accomplishments. Nothing has happened as I dreamed and I hate myself for it, I cant go back, and yet I havent the desire to move forward.

I just want to live. Really live. WHy is this so hard for me? When I look into the mirror I see nothing, everything is a let down, everybody has hurt me, everything about this life is pain!

Its impossible to love another when you cant love yourself. How do people do it? How do they get out of bed in the morning, how do they let go?

How do I kill my past? How do I kill the demons that haunt me? How do I take back my mind and accept that I am part of the bigger reality?

How do I find my way?
 
Hey bro sounds like you are really having a tough time:( ...i really hope that everything gets better for you bro..hang tough

RJ
 
Do yourself a HUGE favor

and get Joel osteens book called "become a better you"

i hate reading, and im not religious

but this book changed my lfe
 
I am at a loss for will. I just cant find myself-- I thought I had it all figured out. As a child, my dreams my accomplishments. Nothing has happened as I dreamed and I hate myself for it, I cant go back, and yet I havent the desire to move forward.

I just want to live. Really live. WHy is this so hard for me? When I look into the mirror I see nothing, everything is a let down, everybody has hurt me, everything about this life is pain!

Its impossible to love another when you cant love yourself. How do people do it? How do they get out of bed in the morning, how do they let go?

How do I kill my past? How do I kill the demons that haunt me? How do I take back my mind and accept that I am part of the bigger reality?

How do I find my way?

Hey bro, I can give you a past that most would'nt even survive. How do you get over it? By building your future and putting positive things in it. The more brighter your future and and good attitude you have, the less you want to remember your past. Don't be ashamed to seek professional help, it happens to the best of us. Keep your chin up!:)
 
I am at a loss for will. I just cant find myself-- I thought I had it all figured out. As a child, my dreams my accomplishments. Nothing has happened as I dreamed and I hate myself for it, I cant go back, and yet I havent the desire to move forward.

I just want to live. Really live. WHy is this so hard for me? When I look into the mirror I see nothing, everything is a let down, everybody has hurt me, everything about this life is pain!

Its impossible to love another when you cant love yourself. How do people do it? How do they get out of bed in the morning, how do they let go?

How do I kill my past? How do I kill the demons that haunt me? How do I take back my mind and accept that I am part of the bigger reality?

How do I find my way?

my two cents:

1. get off any addictive or mind altering substances. booze, pot, blow...anything that makes you feel different or lets you "forget". This may be a huge task, if there are any "issues"

2. if there are no substance abuse issues then you may need some professional help, a therapist or what have you. It can help.

3. and the biggest thing you can do....is get your ass off the pity pot and decide you want something different, then take the steps to get there. This means you develop a plan for success, enact the plan, and stop whining.

Many people are addicted to chaos and getting others pity. Dont be one of those, because IMO thats just really fucked up.
 
thanks for the replies, it helps to put it into perspective when others can see it from the outside...

"3. and the biggest thing you can do....is get your ass off the pity pot and decide you want something different, then take the steps to get there. This means you develop a plan for success, enact the plan, and stop whining."

tough love, thanks
 
I am at a loss for will. I just cant find myself-- I thought I had it all figured out. As a child, my dreams my accomplishments. Nothing has happened as I dreamed and I hate myself for it, I cant go back, and yet I havent the desire to move forward.

I just want to live. Really live. WHy is this so hard for me? When I look into the mirror I see nothing, everything is a let down, everybody has hurt me, everything about this life is pain!

Its impossible to love another when you cant love yourself. How do people do it? How do they get out of bed in the morning, how do they let go?

How do I kill my past? How do I kill the demons that haunt me? How do I take back my mind and accept that I am part of the bigger reality?

How do I find my way?
How long have you felt this way?
 
How long have you felt this way?

for a few years, always gets worse around the winter months...I have been to counseling, etc. tried myriad of drugs (prescribed that is)...but they arent the whole answer...its the mind it runs me
 
for a few years, always gets worse around the winter months...I have been to counseling, etc. tried myriad of drugs (prescribed that is)...but they arent the whole answer...its the mind it runs me
They are not the whole answer. I fully agree. But I can tell you with 100% certainty that they are a valuable tool in the tool chest. There also has to be someone to talk to (the combination of both). It will take some effort (exercises) on your part to retrain your brain. The things you describe are common feelings that almost all people have at one time or another during their lives. There comes a time in everyone's life when they see that the princesses, castles, and knights in shining armor they thought they'd have all come burning down and we are faced with the REALITY that life is tough, gritty, and dirty. Things seldom are as good as they seem on the outside and many people become disappointed when life doesn't turn out as advertised. But almost as often things we never expected can exceed our expectations beyond belief and make us happy beyond words.

It sounds like you should continue with your therapy and possibly get back on some medication at least until you can find yourself and learn what gets your jello shakin'. Life can be full of thrills and chills and adrenaline rushes - peaks and troughs. Try to start looking for something that lights you up. When I feel things are starting to get mundane, I strap on some friends, cams, and some nuts and go climb a rock face. That's one of my gigs. But I've been downhill skiing (thrilling as hell), scuba diving, sky-diving, mountain biking, you name it. Things that are simply thrilling to me... like saltwater stinging me in the face like a bitch slap going top speed on a jet ski!

Obviously not everyone is going to enjoy the things I like but that's what I need to make me feel thrilled. I get the sense that you need to find something that thrills you.

It's not doing you any good for me to point out the obvious that hating yourself is not going to help you to find "a" life that you can enjoy and be satisfied with BUT not necessarily "the" life you picked out for yourself right?

As for your past, don't need to kill it. Deal with it, embrace it, learn from it, cope with it, but whatever you do, don't kill it. That same past is the past that will help to be what you are to become. If you want to realize the notion that you are part of bigger reality, here's something you might enjoy: go find a spot. Even if you have to drive 100 miles to where there is no light whatsoever from cities or houses and look up at the sky on clear night at our cross section of the Milky Way. You are part of a massive infinite reality and maybe it would help for you to get back in touch with that in a physical way when you visualize the splendor of that.

In any case, please see a professional (even a different doctor if necessary) and continue working with your problems. There are many self-help books out there but some are good and some are just terrible. talking to someone will help - a mentor or a religious figure in your life, a friend, your parents, a doctor.

Once you get out there, you'll realize it's really not so bad. In fact, I believe with absolute certainty that once you get out there and start rallying, you are going to look at this all as a distant memory.
 
I am at a loss for will. I just cant find myself-- I thought I had it all figured out. As a child, my dreams my accomplishments. Nothing has happened as I dreamed and I hate myself for it, I cant go back, and yet I havent the desire to move forward.

I just want to live. Really live. WHy is this so hard for me? When I look into the mirror I see nothing, everything is a let down, everybody has hurt me, everything about this life is pain!

Its impossible to love another when you cant love yourself. How do people do it? How do they get out of bed in the morning, how do they let go?

How do I kill my past? How do I kill the demons that haunt me? How do I take back my mind and accept that I am part of the bigger reality?

How do I find my way?

I'm going through the same thing right now, very similar at least, thanks for posting, I won't Hijack you, maybe I will start a separate thread since my issues are a little different. Anyway good luck, some of the advice given you so far sounds good and I will follow some of it.
 
They are not the whole answer. I fully agree. But I can tell you with 100% certainty that they are a valuable tool in the tool chest. There also has to be someone to talk to (the combination of both). It will take some effort (exercises) on your part to retrain your brain. The things you describe are common feelings that almost all people have at one time or another during their lives. There comes a time in everyone's life when they see that the princesses, castles, and knights in shining armor they thought they'd have all come burning down and we are faced with the REALITY that life is tough, gritty, and dirty. Things seldom are as good as they seem on the outside and many people become disappointed when life doesn't turn out as advertised. But almost as often things we never expected can exceed our expectations beyond belief and make us happy beyond words.

It sounds like you should continue with your therapy and possibly get back on some medication at least until you can find yourself and learn what gets your jello shakin'. Life can be full of thrills and chills and adrenaline rushes - peaks and troughs. Try to start looking for something that lights you up. When I feel things are starting to get mundane, I strap on some friends, cams, and some nuts and go climb a rock face. That's one of my gigs. But I've been downhill skiing (thrilling as hell), scuba diving, sky-diving, mountain biking, you name it. Things that are simply thrilling to me... like saltwater stinging me in the face like a bitch slap going top speed on a jet ski!

Obviously not everyone is going to enjoy the things I like but that's what I need to make me feel thrilled. I get the sense that you need to find something that thrills you.

It's not doing you any good for me to point out the obvious that hating yourself is not going to help you to find "a" life that you can enjoy and be satisfied with BUT not necessarily "the" life you picked out for yourself right?

As for your past, don't need to kill it. Deal with it, embrace it, learn from it, cope with it, but whatever you do, don't kill it. That same past is the past that will help to be what you are to become. If you want to realize the notion that you are part of bigger reality, here's something you might enjoy: go find a spot. Even if you have to drive 100 miles to where there is no light whatsoever from cities or houses and look up at the sky on clear night at our cross section of the Milky Way. You are part of a massive infinite reality and maybe it would help for you to get back in touch with that in a physical way when you visualize the splendor of that.

In any case, please see a professional (even a different doctor if necessary) and continue working with your problems. There are many self-help books out there but some are good and some are just terrible. talking to someone will help - a mentor or a religious figure in your life, a friend, your parents, a doctor.

Once you get out there, you'll realize it's really not so bad. In fact, I believe with absolute certainty that once you get out there and start rallying, you are going to look at this all as a distant memory.

Thanks OTH, youre right much like the others that posted...I am seeking help but as you know some days, weeks, months are better than others...I recently had a slip up...got sh*t faced and challenged death, fortunately the people I antagonized for some reason did not feel the need to put me out of my self inflicted misery. I know what it is I need to do...start living! Im going to start fighting again (legally of course) and take chances (calculated/legal/ethical) with my profession, etc...Ive placed myself in a box because of fear and self loathing as a result of some things that were engrained into my psyche and physically done to me as a boy...I have alot of pain and anger in me and most of it is directed at myself.

Thank you for your help. All of you.
 

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