OTC fat burners for women

[mazmm5]

I've got a friend that is asking me which OTC fat burner to buy.

Can any women provide first hand experience on any of the supplements available from the following site:

http://www.shotgunsupplements.co.nz/...t+Burners.html

I was going to send her some ECA but it's my understanding customs in New Zealand and Australia are rather strict, so I didn't want to risk it.

[hngrygrl]

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Universal ABC Beauty Supply International, Inc. Issues a Voluntary Nationwide Recall of Dietary Supplement Products Found to Contain an Undeclared Drug Ingredient
Contact:
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE -- April 20, 2009 -- Universal ABC Beauty Supply International, Inc. of Brooklyn, NY, has been informed by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) that FDA lab analyses of the dietary supplements distributed by the company were found to contain undeclared Sibutramine, an FDA-approved drug used as an appetite suppressant for weight loss. These dietary supplements are not supposed to contain Sibutramine. The FDA has not approved these products, therefore the safety and effectiveness of these products is unknown.

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All lots of the following dietary supplement products are being recalled:

PRODUCT NAME

1. ProSlim Plus, 60 capsules, bottle in box
2. 3 DAYS fit, 60 capsules, bottle in box
3. EIGHT FACTOR DIET, 60 capsules, 3 pouches/box
4. 24hours Diet, 60 capsules
5. Slim 3in1 M-18 ROYAL DIET, 90 capsules, 3 pouches/box
6. 3X SLIMMING POWER, 60 capsules, bottle in box
7. Extrim Plus 24 Hours RE-BURN Formula, 60 capsules
8. Slim 3in1 EXTRA SLIM FORMULA, 90 capsules, 3 pouches/box
9. Slim 3in1 EXTRA SLIM WAIST FORMULA, 90 capsules, 3 pouches/box
10. SLIM EXPRESS 360º C
11. SLIM EXPRESS 4in1, 60 capsules, bottle in box
12. ROYAL SLIMMING FORMULA, 60 capsules, bottle/box
13. BODY CREATOR, 90 capsules, 3 pouches/box
14. Slim Waistline (labeling written in Chinese)
15. BODY SHAPING, 90 capsules, 3 pouches/box
16. PERFECT SLIM, 90 capsules, 3 pouches/box
17. Perfect Slim 100% Natural Herbal Essence
18. IMELDA Perfect Slim
19. Slim Waist Formula, 32 capsules, 2 pouches/box
20. Super Slimming, 60 capsules, bottle in box
21. 2 DAY DIET
22. Powerful Slim
23. BODY SHAPING
24. SUPER FAT BURNER, 60 capsules, bottle in box
25. SLIMMING FORMULA
26. SLIM FAST 2, 32 capsules, 2 pouches/box
27. SLIM FAST, 60 capsules, 3 pouches/box
28. Slim up, 120 capsules, bottle in box
29. 7 DAYS DIET, 60 capsules, 3 pouches/box
30. Perfect Slim Up, 60 capsules, bottle in box
31. JM Fat Reducer
32. SlimBurn
33. 21 Double SLIM
34. TRIM PLUS 2

NOTE: The above products may have various UPC numbers.

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Consumers should not consume the above products and should return the dietary supplements on hand to the place of purchase for a full refund or partial refund of the unused portion. Distributors should contact Sandra Tan by phone at 718-891-6888 or by e-mail at universalabc@aol.com to receive further instructions for returning the product(s). Consumers with questions should contact Sandra Tan at 718-891-6888, Monday through Friday, 12:00 pm through 6 pm, EDT.

[phoenix13]

Good lord, hngrygrl!!! That's quite a list. Thanks for posting.

mazmm, of those listed I have only tried Hydroxycut Hardcore and Cytolean, but I didn't take either of them as directed for fatloss. I gave the Cytolean away b/c I didn't like how it made me feel. Hydroxycut (was given to me for free) I have for the occasion when I just want a quick pick-me-up and there is no coffee available.

If your friend's diet, cardio and training designed to facilitate fatloss, I don't think any of the products on that site is significantly better than any other.

[mazmm5]

Thanks for the replies

The situation is this, my friend (ex-girlfriend) is travelling around New Zealand on a 1 year working holiday. I'm guessing she might be feeling a bit home sick and given the odd hours and inconsistent schedule she had no set daily routine and was constantly picking at food.

I didn't want to recommend any supplements to her because I knew pills wouldn't do anything without proper diet and exercise. But she just seemed so depressed and upset about the weight she had gained that I thought maybe the pills would give her the initial push to get things back in order and stay committed. I know that is how I am when I'm on cycle.

Anyway, had a long talk with her last night and basically convinced her that pills weren't the answer and then proceeded to spend 4 hours speaking with her to put together a proper meal plan that fits into her current life style.

I'm really proud of her, as soon as we finished talking she went straight to the supermarket to buy everything she needed. She was so excited about getting started that she got a speeding ticket on the way to the supermarket

She just messaged me a little while ago to say that she's done the first full day on the new meal plan and she is really happy with it. She has incredible dedication, so I really believe she will stick to it.

[cslim]

woah! that is quite a list! thanks for posting!

I have great success with the ECA stack providing energy and also increased mental and breathing clarity To be honest, i actually look forward to the morning cardio now!

[phoenix13]

Originally Posted by mazmm5

I thought maybe the pills would give her the initial push to get things back in order and stay committed. I know that is how I am when I'm on cycle.

I understand your reasoning with that. Sometimes it does help mentally.

Originally Posted by mazmm5

Anyway, had a long talk with her last night and basically convinced her that pills weren't the answer and then proceeded to spend 4 hours speaking with her to put together a proper meal plan that fits into her current life style.

I'm really proud of her, as soon as we finished talking she went straight to the supermarket to buy everything she needed. She was so excited about getting started that she got a speeding ticket on the way to the supermarket

She just messaged me a little while ago to say that she's done the first full day on the new meal plan and she is really happy with it. She has incredible dedication, so I really believe she will stick to it.

mazmm, I am really proud of YOU! You did the right thing. Best wishes to your friend in reaching her goals.

[klowndog]

Have you beautiful young ladies ever tried Meltdown? I have some on order for my girl. She finished a bottle of Phil's ECY, and loved it, but I read an add about Meltdown, and the charts of thermogenic properties between ECA and Meltdown, there was no comparison. Hopefully it will arrive today, and I will update the results.

[phoenix13]

klowndog, I've never tried it. Let us know how she likes it, how it works for her.

[Gators]

I just tried Zenalean stack i got from Phil, and usually i'm VERY sensitive to stimulants, and this stuff bothers me nada, just good energy and good focus (i'm also adhd), i can't say how pleasantly surprised i am. I'm not a big guy, only 186, so maybe it would work for her?

[Big Bapper]

Synthburn. They will ship to NZ and even think they have distributors there. Send them mail. They are oz baced.

[Leslie1100]

I have tried and LOVED Hot Rox extreme from T-nation. It has yohimbi in it which has helped me with my depression. Look it up on their web site and see what you think!

[Alin]

Originally Posted by mazmm5

I've got a friend that is asking me which OTC fat burner to buy.

Can any women provide first hand experience on any of the supplements available from the following site:

Fat Burners - Weight loss products - Shop by Category - Shotgun Supplements Limited

I was going to send her some ECA but it's my understanding customs in New Zealand and Australia are rather strict, so I didn't want to risk it.

Although not always OTC in every area,,most EVERY woman I have worked with has done amazingly well with either ECA or CLENBUTEROL.