Birth Control and Competing

[biggTdogg]

Do most figure competitors go completely off any birth control while doing their contest prep to reduce estrogen? If so, how long would you need to be off to make a difference in bodyfat and water retention?

I'm trying to help my GF plan out her first contest prep. I was thinking of something like this:

8 weeks out stop the nuva-ring
6 weeks out 5-10mg var ED
6 weeks out 10mg Nolva ED

She's never done any aas or AI and she's not willing to put up with any harsh sides. So does this kinda make sense for her? Will her hormones bounce back to normal after the show?

I REALLY appreciate any comments on this, especially from women who have competed before!

 

[biggTdogg]

Nothing?

 

[mo chuisle]

Some go off it, some don't - it really depends on the individual. I actually haven't heard of it making much of a difference. Maybe a pound or two, but not much more than that. Eight weeks out sounds like a long time; she could wait until about 4 weeks out to take it out if she feels she needs to go off it.

If she needs to lose fat, she should concentrate on her diet and training first and foremost before taking anything. Drugs are NOT necessary in Figure.

~ Mo

 

[biggTdogg]

Some go off it, some don't - it really depends on the individual. I actually haven't heard of it making much of a difference. Maybe a pound or two, but not much more than that. Eight weeks out sounds like a long time; she could wait until about 4 weeks out to take it out if she feels she needs to go off it.

Another point - birth control does not make a difference in body fat. There are only reports of water retention. If she needs to lose fat, bc has nothing to do with it, and she needs to concentrate on her diet and training first and foremost before taking anything. Drugs are NOT necessary in Figure.

~ Mo

I know she'd prefer to stay natural if possible. She just wants to look her best on stage.

I know excess estrogen in men can definitely have an effect on BF not just water. Maybe in women BC doesn't effect estrogen as much as I thought?

 

[gstracer]

estrogen will deff have a major effect on there BF level but my girl competes in figure and she does no come off her BC and is on antidepresents. both witch retain weight gain but ses able to get to basic single digits so.... its all on the person and how hard they wanna deit and what not.

 

[gstracer]

here is a pic from her last comp

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[biggTdogg]

Very nice. Is she all natural?

 

[gstracer]

ya she is basically natty. uses some fat burners and did some var in the past but never injectable or multiple things just hard ass work and a great deit. she is 5 weeks out from a show right now, she is gonna do like 4 or 5 shows all with in a few weeks and then offseason so we can enjoy the summer cuz when she diets i diet so its easier on both of us y aknow

 

[mo chuisle]

She looks great!! Keep in mind that the judges are not looking for the most shredded, leanest girl on stage. Figure is NOT bodybuilding. They're looking for overall symmetry, muscle development, and presentation. Using non-OTC supplements is a personal choice, of course, but I believe it's not necessary for Figure. If she diets and works hard, there's no reason why she can't present her best natural physique on stage.

btw - girly question ... where'd she get her suit? It's beautiful!

~ Mo

 

[malki]

Estrogen not only determines the female properties but also the distribution of body fat. First you need to decide whether you need to compete or be a mom. You cannot have the cake and eat it.
Better to use non-hormonal contraceptive methods if you want to compete.


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[hemipower]

I asked this on another thread but I have trained women for a LONG time for shows and have always taken them off birth control for several months for their shows...

I wondered what sort of difference it makes (quantitatively speaking)...I have a new one on progesterone based bc, and I know when MY progesterone gets high I cannot lose fat and I hold a TON of water. She has done several shows on it and CANNOT seem to get hard even with an insanely difficult diet, hard training, and hours of cardio a day!

I guess everyone is individual but had hoped for some case reports....like my girl got off progest bc and her prep was xyz% easier and she was abc% leaner on same diet or something like that...
Anyone??

 

[RESTLESS1]

great looking picture...........

 

[mexbeast]

just a thought if bc stops natural hormone production would it not be better to be on bc? why? the pill comes in; if i remember 250-500mcgs, so the estrogen level would be small and even through out the whole precontest period, does any one ever wonder about the placebo effect? do women gain weight due to the bc or the bad eating? also the late steroid guru dan duchain used to believe that progesterone is thermogenic!

 

[hemipower]

just a thought if bc stops natural hormone production would it not be better to be on bc? why? the pill comes in; if i remember 250-500mcgs, so the estrogen level would be small and even through out the whole precontest period, does any one ever wonder about the placebo effect? do women gain weight due to the bc or the bad eating? also the late steroid guru dan duchain used to believe that progesterone is thermogenic!

well to see if water comes off we are cutting her dose in half (progesterone based) for 2-3 wks and then completely off through the next show(s).

I am confident it will help in her case. Previous trainers have had her doing 3 hrs of cardio 5 days a week and super low to zero carbs for months and months trying to get her down without the level of success desired...only pharms she does it anavar at 10mg a day (too much imo should do 5 as she is androgen sensitive even responds to anav) and clen.

Doing a trial run next couple months and seeing how it goes...