Benadryl is a very dirty med. It is an acetylcholine inhibitor, so overuse can make you fat, slow, and dumb.
I had no idea, thanks Type-IIx
Benadryl is a very dirty med. It is an acetylcholine inhibitor, so overuse can make you fat, slow, and dumb.
I had no idea, thanks Type-IIx
Thanks for the info LK3, what I'm getting out of this thread is that I should lay off the "sleep aids" and get back to a natural rhythm. I know the number one thing I need to do is move to a lower elevation to improve my sleep. Unfortunately I can't just freely do that right now, I own my house and need to improve my financial state to afford to relocate. Since moving to 10,650ft exactly 10 years ago I've developed sleep issues including sleep Apnea. Plus, where I live tourism has taken over, I'm ready for standard day to day living and conveniences' along with I want to back in a level headed civilization.the thing with this sleep stuff bud is that you dont really want to knock yourself out.
alcahol for example fucks up jow you go through sleep cycles so while you might be out, it isnt really the rest you need. be groggy can be a sing of poor sleep quality.
i did all the melatonin stuff years ago and i used to have serious issues with sleep.
i think there are probably good reasons not to use all that stuff ed.
Ah, yes. RhGH & clen for visceral fat loss; ARBs/ACE inhibitors (only when indicated, not as a prophylactic; lifestyle is the appropriate prophylactic here) for hypertension; and whatever front-line medications to stave off Alzheimer's progression are in popular use medically for those with familial history of Alzheimer's.
Thanks for the info LK3, what I'm getting out of this thread is that I should lay off the "sleep aids" and get back to a natural rhythm. I know the number one thing I need to do is move to a lower elevation to improve my sleep. Unfortunately I can't just freely do that right now, I own my house and need to improve my financial state to afford to relocate. Since moving to 10,650ft exactly 10 years ago I've developed sleep issues including sleep Apnea. Plus, where I live tourism has taken over, I'm ready for standard day to day living and conveniences' along with I want to back in a level headed civilization.
Some places say to only take 300mcg to replace natural melatonin production. Others say to use super high doses.
A lot of conflicting information to dig through.
The good news is that natural melatonin production returns once you stop taking it, regardless of how much we take and for how long. Our natural levels decline around age 30, so there is benefit in supplementing it for anti aging (I take 300mcg). Our bodies normally produce 100-200mcg when functioning optimally.so lets say you do that. replacing natty production kinda sounds liek shutting off no?
maybe this can effect pituitary function?
now maybe im remembering the reasons why not to take mel?
lol idk its been along time since i thought about it. but i think this migh be why doing a big dose reset and not doing ed might be better. then doing ed. particularly for helath.
Check out Clenbuterol focus: Research on Clen & Beta2- Adrenergic Compounds, Protocolswell, clen for sure is more effective in that regard - but do we disregard potential sides in this discussion?
or what you say that there is a strategy do use clen in a safe matter?
I take 10mg of Melatonin in hopes that it is helping with sleep very night, with Benadryl, I still don't sleep well. Just started using my CPAP again after years of refusing to, it's helping but not solving my sleep issues completely. I know a large part of my sleep issues are from living at 10,650ft, work stress and financial stress.
Didn't know that Benadryl was viewed as a dirty med and interferes with REM sleep? I just know it does help knock me out, but I can wake up groggy at times, not fully functional. It takes me a long while to get motivated and moving in the morning, on average an hour an half to two hours.
the thing with this sleep stuff bud is that you dont really want to knock yourself out.
alcahol for example fucks up jow you go through sleep cycles so while you might be out, it isnt really the rest you need. be groggy can be a sing of poor sleep quality.
i did all the melatonin stuff years ago and i used to have serious issues with sleep.
i think there are probably good reasons not to use all that stuff ed.
If you miss your sleep window with melatonin at regular doses - it often causes insomnia. This has always been an issue for me. The only product with Melatonin in it that worked wonders for me was Mike Arnold's Somatazine which was paired with Mk-677 and Magnesium Glycinate along with a few other items.
Many people have trouble sleeping at altitude. It's always been my understanding that since a person at higher altitude requires increased breathing (respiration) to maintain adequate blood oxygen levels, this increased respiration throws off your normal sleep patterns. It's not unusual for climbers at higher altitudes to have major sleep disruptions. I've noticed it myself. Normally it subsides after acclimatization but if it does not, could indicate some other brain or cardiorespiratory malfunction or brain respiration connection. And if that's the case, the outlook isn't exactly ideal. You could be creating problems for yourself down the road.Thanks for the info LK3, what I'm getting out of this thread is that I should lay off the "sleep aids" and get back to a natural rhythm. I know the number one thing I need to do is move to a lower elevation to improve my sleep. Unfortunately I can't just freely do that right now, I own my house and need to improve my financial state to afford to relocate. Since moving to 10,650ft exactly 10 years ago I've developed sleep issues including sleep Apnea. Plus, where I live tourism has taken over, I'm ready for standard day to day living and conveniences' along with I want to back in a level headed civilization.
Yes, I agree with you. I'm working on moving to a lower elevation but not so easy. Have to get the right job offer first, be setup to sell my place and be ready to make the move as I drag all my possessions with me. I did get a new job about 2 months ago that would bring me close to cutting my elevation to half. Been following the housing market but with housing being inflated right now I'm currently priced out. Just waiting my time to make things work to live at a lower elevation for my wellbeing and health.Many people have trouble sleeping at altitude. It's always been my understanding that since a person at higher altitude requires increased breathing (respiration) to maintain adequate blood oxygen levels, this increased respiration throws off your normal sleep patterns. It's not unusual for climbers at higher altitudes to have major sleep disruptions. I've noticed it myself. Normally it subsides after acclimatization but if it does not, could indicate some other brain or cardiorespiratory malfunction or brain respiration connection. And if that's the case, the outlook isn't exactly ideal. You could be creating problems for yourself down the road.
I'd recommend you get down below 2,400m and do your sleeping there, brother. Even if it means you have to return to 3,000m+ to work, live, etc daily. Because insomnia is not healthy, not if it's primary or secondary to something else and the tertiary condition resulting from the insomnia (eg, psychosis, somnolence, cardiovascular).
Thanks for the share totalrecomp, I will look into Focus XTLong-term use of diphenhydramine
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Increased risk of dementia with chronic use of anti-cholinergic drugs. At minimum if you need to keep taking it I would look into something to off-set this: Acetyl-L-Carnitine, lecithin, Hup-A, Alpha GPC, Citi-choline, L-choline.......not all of them of course. I use Focus XT by Serious Nutrition Solutions as it has a great stack of foundational nootropics with acetylcholine production well covered.
Lean Dreams was the shit, also comatose and pornstar was fuckin weirdALRI Lean Dreams was excellent and my favorite sleep product ever! It was like going to a virtual reality world every night in my dreams. I literally looked forward to what the show was going to be each night. I so miss that product. A couple have come close but that was the best IME.
It had melatonin amongst other things like zizyphus/jujube extract which I LOVE.
SNS Sleep Assist XT and Hi-Tech's Sleep RX both have it and are close to lean dreams but only 75% as effective.