Yeah, Justin Harris coaches me and he's not going anywhere lol.These poor coaches out here. One mistake and itās āyouāre firedā.
I canāt recall- who is your coach?
Mk677 has been always all over the place from what I have seen with others so wouldnāt have been my choice.
GHRP is far more controllable IMO and know many coaches will suggest it.
But the correct solution IMO is to use lower volume foods and rotate your menu so you enjoy eating while building your digestion and metabolism.
This after a solid GI foundation of probiotics, digestive enzymes, Glutamine, supplements, controlling water intake around eating etc.
I have seen this trend with guys and coaches of āIām not hungry so throw insulin or peptides at it.ā
Fix the digestion, build the metabolism and rotate the menu first. I have to eat a LOT of food. This is my process any time I get stuck. If those are all done and in check then Iāll use some GHRP-2 sparingly around the meals I am struggling to hit.
But donāt fire your coach over one bad call with peptides- in his defense he got you hungry AF which is what you asked for.
Same, I wanted the tabs dosed at just 10mg for dosing flexibility.We sell 10mg MK-677 tabs (I told Geno to do that dose for a very good reason) and I am even using it now. I have used Geno's brand for a few years on/off and have used other brands many times over many years. I started using it over a decade ago. I have posts on here about using MK-677 in the past in 2015 (I just checked). Some of the posts above are OTT. Like anything individual response varies massively. Although you definitely have to look out for increases in blood pressure, heart rate and insulin resistance. Although with the right measures in place they can easily be controlled. Like most things people take too much.
Now it's not for everyone but to post his coach must not know what he is doing because he recommended it is ridiculous. I do know many top coaches who hate it though but again most run it incorrectly for their response if they have such bad issues. Again it may be horrible for you but it's by no means like what some people have posted.
I don't get diarrhea from it at all. Perhaps you had that because of what you ate on it. To post it definitely causes that is completely wrong imo though. I don't even get that hungry from it. Well it does help with appetite a lot but I am not ravenous from it (I have been sometimes though). I get amazing sleep from it but like with HGH it makes me too tired and that's the mean reason I don't use it that much. I was using 10mg per day but I just restarted it and will be using 10mg EOD for now. It can be an incredible aid with few side effects but sure if you dose it daily and eat everything in sight you are likely going to experience a lot of side effects.
I want to add I have gotten just as much from MK as I have HGH. I haven't paid for either for years and mk-677 is super cheap so if I was going to bullshit people for sales it would be hgh all the way but it's never like that with me. I tell people all the time I am not a huge fan of hgh (for me) and it's ok and the same for mk-677 as well. I understand the hate for mk but quite honestly if some guy wants to grow taking 10mg per day could be amazing for a lot of people as long as everything else is in place. That's literally $0.45 per day so it's atleast worth trying and seeing for yourself. Obviously there is a reason HGH is loved and it's stated as almost essential these days to go far in bodybuilding so I wouldn't for 1 second compare the 2 in general but just stating what I like.
I get the same sort of side effects and results from both. I get overly tired and I have amazing sleep and dreams on both. HGH doesn't make you hungry but I have never really had that from MK-677 either. Many guys get extreme hunger from MK so it can be useful for that. As posted GHRP-6 is amazing for hunger and you can dose it for specific times so is ideal when wanting to eat more at certain times. I get water retention from HGH and I get it from MK-677 but if the dose is low it's in the muscle and I fell fuller but tighter. If I use a higher dose of MK-677 I am am mess and falling asleep all day and I get bloated from it. If you use it at a low dose and cycle it on/off it can be a decent aid and shouldn't come with loads of side effects. I wouldn't totally dismiss and it could be a great aid for you especially if you don't have the budget for HGH and what to use something that as a similar effect.
Phil viz said he recommends mk677 for people who cant afford pharma gh.Lol dude I just donāt know how a professional coach would recommend something that destroys your insulin sensitivity and makes you hershey squirt all day.
MK if it is to be used only twice a week it makes some sense to me, especially since you are with Justin and he pays great attention to aspects such as insulin sensitivity. In such a case, it would also be good to consider adding GDA on days off and maybe even a hit-cardio session to further support glycemia on those days.Yeah, Justin Harris coaches me and he's not going anywhere lol.
We're talking a low dose before bed 2x/week and it accomplished the exact goal I was looking for.
A1c is a consistent 4.5 and BP is always good. These guys are a tough crowd!
I have been using 20 mg before bed to increase my hgh naturally.I tend to really struggle to get the food down during a blast phase. Even worse, I need a TON of food to even maintain my bodyweight (700g carbs on low days, 1400 on high days).
My coach suggested taking 12.5mg mk677 before bed on the nights before high days only. Last night was the first time trying it. Holy shit. I went to bed at 9pm, woke up at 1030 after vivid food dreams and I swear to God it felt like I injected 40iu of humalog. Ravenous doesn't even begin to describe the level of hunger I felt. And I'm never, ever hungry these days. Went downstairs and slammed a protein shake, 3 rice Krispies and 2 bananas and was still starving. Took every ounce of discipline in my soul to walk away from the kitchen.
Definitely not sustainable and probably counter-productive long term, but I figured I'd pass along a tip for those who struggle to get the food down. Mk677 in extreme moderation can definitely work.
I used quite a bit of MK677. Never had a problem with diarrhea, not even once. Best one I ever came across was Mike Arnolds Somatozine.100% serious. Never experienced myself, never heard from friends or clients.
You guys all got it from the same place?
It works pretty damn well on its own but a few additions may be slightly helpful. Including good old Melatonin.MK unfortunately stopped working for me after many months, the eating aspect.
Never got diarrhea.
It was said on this forum that if you took MK with that long acting GHRH you could reach IGF levels equal to 10iu of GH. Yes I know it's not the same at all but the IGF boost is impressive nonetheless. IIRC even Mike Arnold said it, talking about the "gh bleed."
Researchers say it will never reach the commercial market due to the appetite increase.
There were ways to increase the effect with green tea extract, huperzine and l-dopa.
I'd rather take MK than the progestin megestrol that Chad uses. That's an HIV appetite drug when guys are wasting away. We had one guy here who used it under Chad, forgot his name. It "worked" according to him.I've always felt like MK is something that shouldn't have it place in bodybuilding - but im not that sure about that just yet . If JH uses it that way and it works just fine for it use for, maybe is not such as bad as i thought in general . But the problem is 3/4 of the guys is not even close to the discipline it takes to make it works
Ghrp was always my choice in cases when someone struggling to eat (and it was not just pure laziness and being not organized- and itās usually the case).I'd rather take MK than the progestin megestrol that Chad uses. That's an HIV appetite drug when guys are wasting away. We had one guy here who used it under Chad, forgot his name. It "worked" according to him.
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