The lack of studies on bodybuilders using AAS is definitely a potential issue but that logic could be applied to nearly every medication in existence. If we start refuting studies because they weren't done on bodybuilders we're gonna run out of studies real quick.I work in medicine so I can recommend a medication that I personally give and see it’s affect on 100s of people with blood work involved. I know what I’m talking about, that’s why “research” is useless in this situation. When they post a study about bodybuilders taking AAS then we can debate a topic, but I don’t see it, do you?
Were the subjects obese? Did they have other meds on board while taking HCTZ?
A personal example... I've found that tren can give me hyperkalemia. (Maybe inhibits aldosterone?) And although studies on ACE-Is weren't done on AAS using bodybuilders, its still useful for me to know that lisinopril can cause hyperkalemia so i avoid that if running tren. In contrast i have used HCTZ (i know, should follow my own advice and use chlorthalidone haha) with tren as it is a very potent kaliuretic, moreso even than lasix. Info also from studies not done on bodybuilders.
Your personal experience definitely does give weight to your opinion, and i respect that, but you didn't mention that in your post.
This day and age i think we can assume most participants in any study are obese.
With regard to study subjects possibly being on other meds, most bodybuilders i know are fantastic examples of polypharmacy
The bigger issue that prompted my response is that, after coming on this board for like 12 years or so, i don't really understand the vibe or culture that the board is trying to cultivate. Someone can post a thought or opinion w/o citing a study and they can get shit on for that. Someone can post a study to try to support their viewpoint and they can get shit on for that. And then board members lament the lack of useful/meaningful discussion. I mean, i totally get flaming the trolls and douchebags (thank you southernmuscle!) but maybe if people who are genuinely trying got redirected or something instead of mocked it might foster better discussion.
You could have said, i have a lot of experience in this area, have seen those studies, but in my experience... but you just made fun of him for trying to post studies he may have found on Google.
And actually, as far as search engines go, Google is one of the better ones for academics. Yahoo, for example, ranks search findings based on page popularity or traffic while Google's algorithm ranks search findings based on how many other sites cite or link the web pages in the search result. So, unless someone has full access to pub med or a library at an academic hospital Google is pretty decent.
Much respect for someone who works in healthcare, genuinely.