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Water Retention from International Rips

Mack

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Ive noticed more water retention from international rips then domestic rips..

Has anyone else experienced more water retention on international rips? The water retention sucks big time - im getting edema in my lower extremities.. I may take caber to combat it. Btw im not ripping rips.. I highly recommend there product, it is significantly better then any hgh ive ever used... I just need to figure how to handle the water retention sides. My current cycle is hgh only and no juice.
 
What do you mean? The Provider has two kinds of Riptropin laying around? :p
 
Maybe its from diffrent batch's

seen this kind of reports before, but I don't really know what they mean...

My rips gave me water retention...
 
I get no water retention from this batch of rips. Old ones from a year ago gave me lots of water retention.
 
All legit HGH causes water retention. I've never been on HGH that did not cause this. In fact, I'd say that if someone is on HGH and not getting water retention, then it might be bunk HGH
 
All legit HGH causes water retention. I've never been on HGH that did not cause this. In fact, I'd say that if someone is on HGH and not getting water retention, then it might be bunk HGH

The bold is bs and the rest is your opinion... Not the facts.
 
The bold is bs and the rest is your opinion... Not the facts.


A major side effect of growth hormone (GH) administration is fluid retention.
Growth hormone and fluid retention. [Horm Res. 1999] - PubMed - NCBI

However, the effect of growth hormone was mostly due to fluid retention, the researchers found.
**broken link removed**

It is concluded that short-term administration of GH to short normal children results in a transitory mild retention of sodium and a secondary water retention, and suggests that the primary event leading to sodium retention during the early phase of GH therapy of short normal children is an inappropriate increase in PRA.
Water and sodium retention during short-term admini... [Horm Res. 1998] - PubMed - NCBI

Look, the bottom line is that Growth Hormone administration leads to increased aldosterone . Particularly excessive levels are even more prone to cause this.

I'm open to reading about the facts that you've gathered on this subject. I'm not emotionally invested in this, so please fill me in on what you've discovered. Until then it might be useful to consider this phenomenon, if not a fact, then a scientifically scrutinized and verifiable consequence of Growth Hormone usage, especially in the dosages we're using them.

To the OP, were you using anything else when you tried the domestic version?

Go out and buy some Ester-C. It has done amazing things for the edema I was experiencing. Don't bother with Caber, as this isn't a prolactin issue, even though excessive GH does bind to prolactin receptors. It's that GH binds to receptors in the kidneys and tells them to hold on to sodium. The best thing to combat that side effect is through Angiotensin Converting Enzyme inhibitors, like captopril. That and make damn sure you're eating twice as much potassium rich foods as you are sodium rich foods. That's just plain good advice anyways.

As for why some of the GH floating around is causing excess retention and others is causing almost no retention? I can only guess because I don't know the science behind the production of this stuff. But GH does cause sodium retention, there is little reason for me to doubt this, therefore the idea that more pure GH causes less retention just doesn't jive with me. It could be that impure GH has little proteins left in it that bind to the renin receptors in the kidneys but are not complete aminos so they don't bind to the GH receptor, but that's still a stretch considering I'm out of my league on the biology of this.

But like I said, I'm far from attached to my findings, so anything else people can share with me that has been peer reviewed and has multiple findings to back it up - I'm all ears.
 
Disco:

Bro, that's quite the scholarly post. Are you in the medical field?
 
You can post every study you can find on google, I will say it again, His post was pure bs and his opinion.
 
All legit HGH causes water retention. I've never been on HGH that did not cause this. In fact, I'd say that if someone is on HGH and not getting water retention, then it might be bunk HGH

This is simply not true.
 
On another forum I've read people saying the same. I've never ran them myself, but people love them however they're suspicious about why they cause more water retention than they've experienced elsewhere. Two of my close friends who have their pro card use serono/serostim and still say riptropins are one of their favorite types of GH, but still they both said there's more water retention.

What can be a reason for that and what's good to keep it down?
 
HGH has direct action on the juxtaglomerular cells to stimulate the secretion of renin.
Renin generates aldosterone via the renin-angiotensin system. You retain sodium. That's all there is to it.

If you have HGH on board, you will retain sodium.
 
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I held water on every HGH that i've ever used. some more than others.
 
On another forum I've read people saying the same. I've never ran them myself, but people love them however they're suspicious about why they cause more water retention than they've experienced elsewhere. Two of my close friends who have their pro card use serono/serostim and still say riptropins are one of their favorite types of GH, but still they both said there's more water retention.

What can be a reason for that and what's good to keep it down?

Ester C. I've said this a number of times now. 2 grams a day.
 
HGH has direct action on the proximal tubule to stimulate the secretion of renin.
Renin generates aldosterone via the renin-angiotensin system. You retain sodium. That's all there is to it.

If you have HGH on board, you will retain sodium.

Most of the water retention is from diet. How do you explain the ability to get in contest shape with no diuretic use, and no subq water retention? Done it many times with GH right up to show, and so have others I know. When not on a strict diet, yes there is water retention with GH. Most is diet related.
 
What can be a reason for that and what's good to keep it down?

An ACE inhibitor is an ideal compound to run along with HGH if you are edematous and hypertensive. There are also several other health benefits to running ACE inhibitors too.
 
HGH has direct action on the juxtaglomerular cells to stimulate the secretion of renin.
Renin generates aldosterone via the renin-angiotensin system. You retain sodium. That's all there is to it.

If you have HGH on board, you will retain sodium.

Thank you.
 
Most of the water retention is from diet. How do you explain the ability to get in contest shape with no diuretic use, and no subq water retention? Done it many times with GH right up to show, and so have others I know. When not on a strict diet, yes there is water retention with GH. Most is diet related.

Well sure, you completely take sodium out of your diet and water retention will dissipate, there's very little sodium ingested to be retained. But that fullness and roundness you have in your muscle bellies? That's fluid retention within the muscle itself. This isn't Deca bloat we're talking about.

Look, the main premise of this argument is that GH does not cause sodium/fluid retention. I stand by the claim that if all other variables are constant, someone who takes 5 ius of GH a day is going to retain sodium and fluid. When they stop taking GH that fluid diminishes. That's all. It's not my opinion. It's the opinion of thousands if not millions of researchers, endocrinologists, physicians and hemodialysis administrators. It's an opinion that I'm willing to stake money on.
 
You can post every study you can find on google, I will say it again, His post was pure bs and his opinion.

So you don't believe that Growth Hormone has an effect on fluid balance in the human body? I just want to make sure I understand your opinion.
 
Most of the water retention is from diet. How do you explain the ability to get in contest shape with no diuretic use, and no subq water retention? Done it many times with GH right up to show, and so have others I know. When not on a strict diet, yes there is water retention with GH. Most is diet related.

Completely agree - diet is crucial. If you keep sodium intake low, it will blunt the secretion of renin. No question
 

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