ATD as an anti-e?

[DIEZEL666]

Does anyone have any experience using something like Kilosports Attack or Gaspari Novedex as an anti-e on cycle? If you can post experiences and feedback I would appreciate it. Thanks.

 

[Max32]

stay away from regular ATD. It is an anti-androgen as well. KILLS libido, and has some other unwanted effects. Better OTC options:

ALRI Jungle Warfare (ADED)
ALRI Restore (6 a and b Bromo)
AnabolicXtreme PCT (methylated ATD....big difference, a LOT better)

My vote goes to stacking the top 2. I used those for a PCT recently and got libido back instantly, along with Peter North size loads The top 2 also raises free testosterone significantly, lowers cortisol, and has a SARM (selective androgen reuptake modulator)

 

[DIEZEL666]

Thanks Max. What about using them on cycle? Also, what were your dosages of each?

 

[Max32]

Thanks Max. What about using them on cycle? Also, what were your dosages of each?

Honestly, the junglewarfare is my favorite product. It is great both on and off, but so is restore for that matter. Restore also has an anti-prolactin as well.

My girl takes JW to get ready for figure competitions as well. She opts for this over var, primo, deca, etc... It gave her a nice hardening and drying out effect, while increasing strength and libido . I'll see if I can find some pics of her from her last shoot...

For me, I notice adding in JW to a cycle almost acts as an amplifier. That makes sense with the extra free testosterone and the SARM effect...

 

[Conan21]

Max32

What do u mean by it is an "anti-androgen"

 

[Max32]

What do u mean by it is an "anti-androgen"

going by what I have read in studies and heard from people in the industry. Author L Rea (owner of ALRI) has got into length with me on this...he used to use it in the original Ultra H.O.T. but yanked ATD when this studies came out and through their in house testing...I will see what I can dig up bud...

 

[KillerStack]

stay away from regular ATD. It is an anti-androgen as well. KILLS libido, and has some other unwanted effects. Better OTC options:

I have tried bulk ATD powder that I capped as a PCT after short oral cycles and it causes a big increase in libido actually IME. Mood is enhanced as well.

IIRC the anti-androgen component could be why it increases T so much, since androgens themselves exert a negative feedback, not just estrogens right?