Written by John Romano

[concreteguy]

I just read an article from RXMuscle 7/21/09.
It was labeled What Do the Pros Take? John Romano is well respected and may be a partner with Palumbo owning RXMuscle. What he said goes (way) against the flow over here about AAS and the amounts being done. I know DOGCRAP and Phil and other well informed experts have said exactly the contrary. I will concede that when compaired to thier knowledge in this field I know nothing. That being said, Romano goes on in this article to say

"some guys add these blended testosterones such as Sustanon, Testoviron, Sten just to make sure all the bases are covered. Astoundingly, it was not uncommon for a top pro to be pumpimg4000 to 5000mg, or more, a week of such concoctions."

The article goes on to draw a picture of pro level AAS use and other stuff they are throwing on top of the 4 to 5000mgs of test per week. He also said that this was being done in short cycles. Romano wasn't taking about a couple of nuts in the sport with a death wish. He was referring to this being the norm in the pro ranks. I don't think he has anything to gain by lying about this. RXMuscle has numerous IFBB Pros at the site.
I remember two well known edu ma cated guys having a heated argument about this a year or so ago at ProMuscle. It would seem that the claims the one trainer was making about his experience training pros may have gave him real word insight. Or not.

[EDED]

pro dosages being kept quiet is probably the safest/smartest idea for all of us

think about it...psychology of gym goers and gear users.

[MonkeyBoy]

Who really knows. Unless you see it or know first hand...

but here is Tom Princes cycle in 2001

Tom Prince; 2001 Night Of Champions Cycle - Bodybuilding.com Forums

[robot]

Seems about right.

[dwil]

I'm not trying to stir anything up, and I certainly can't speak for everyone, but I know a few pros very well, and that is definitely not the case for them. I think a lot of people see the size or shape of some pros and automatically think, or completely exagerate what they might be taking, and they are seriosuly mistaken. That is about 4 times more test than the most they have ever taken in one week. You really can't believe everything you hear, or read in that case.

[MikeS]

Jon Romono is a straight up guy. One of the absolute most influencial pro-steroid activists since the millenium. I know him pretty ok, I wrote the original "BUSTED" arcticle in Muscular Development with Jon and Rick Collins. Id take what he says to the bank.
That Tom Prince cycle seems no more then I used to take when I was actively cycling mutiple AAS, probably a normal cycle for most of you here also. But Im now on test/IGF HRT alone.

[jalsmiley]

i like what tom says in his responses to ?s....coincides with what most of vets n pros here have been saying all along....hard work, common sense and simple with the aas, diet....keep adding doses n compounds n u looking at too many factors to keep under control

[morepain]

Originally Posted by MikeS

Jon Romono is a straight up guy. One of the absolute most influencial pro-steroid activists since the millenium. I know him pretty ok, I wrote the original "BUSTED" arcticle in Muscular Development with Jon and Rick Collins. Id take what he says to the bank.
That Tom Prince cycle seems no more then I used to take when I was actively cycling mutiple AAS, probably a normal cycle for most of you here also. But Im now on test/IGF HRT alone.

i agree completely...the few guys i ever had a chance to talk to honestly in BB and powerlifitng were like "1000 mg ... shit you won't get anywhere on that" but i could care less really and their business is just that ... their business

thats certainly not to indicate that the average guy can do those amounts and be in that condition..its the combination of all factors that get a person to the top.

[RINO]

Originally Posted by MonkeyBoy

Who really knows. Unless you see it or know first hand...

but here is Tom Princes cycle in 2001

Tom Prince; 2001 Night Of Champions Cycle - Bodybuilding.com Forums

That was 1500mg test a week.I've seen worse.

[Dangkolo]

Got my feet kicked up on the sofa, This topic has been beaten to death but always entertaining!

[Lee Salado]

Are they pro's because they take that much? Or do they take that much because they are pro's?

[b-boy]

Originally Posted by Lee Salado

Are they pro's because they take that much? Or do they take that much because they are pro's?

Ha ha ha LOL good one, that made me laugh out loud at work

[intensed]

I believe Nasser is coming out with a book on the truth. It should be interesting on what he has to say. From reading some of his articles there is a lot of stuff kept quiet between the pros.

[PHIL HERNON]

I know national level guys that take that much , sure..........they are top 10-15...but will not do much better than that....I knew of a couple pros that I competed agianst took that much but they are either dead or in jail for murder........so sure, guys are doing it, but how long can it continue?

[dalvare1]

Originally Posted by Lee Salado

Are they pro's because they take that much? Or do they take that much because they are pro's?

HAHAHA

Phil?

[Big Dave Smith]

I know of a NYC pro who now doesn't compete.

I was told (by him) that this is his off-season base of gear. Didn't get into GH or anything else.
5000mg+ Test
1000g Primo

He was massive, but had problems. I'd say what they were, but you'd know exactly who it is once I mention the issues.


The answer lies somewhere in the middle. The guy who won the North Americans must have been clean (for a drug test) because he planned on doing Team Universe. That doesn't mean natural, but that does mean "watch your ass"... yet I've heard ridiculous confessions about drug use from a few trainers and bodybuilders that were being pretty honest.

[maldorf]

What I am wondering is that its a shame that so many people feel like they have to know what the pros are using. Why is this so? Do they assume that they can achieve similar physiques by taking AAS like they do?
I guess anyone serious about bodybuilding will go through this stage at one time or another. Once the experiemtation begins and you see your results after many years of use you begin to discover the true reason why those guys are pros, and its not because of the drugs. Eventually the truth sets in and then hopefully things get back to a more reasonable and safe level.

[DIEZEL666]

What article is it? Do you have a link?

[betito]

Don´t ask "how much you use?" instead ask "How much is the smallest you could use to achieve that look?" and yes, that means that possibly most of the competitors know they are taking and overkill aproach

[Metal]

I thought it was a combo of years of hard training, serious diet and of course...gear.

Thats the nice thing about homebrewing. you can make 5000 mg per ml if you wanted.