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I think its time for accutane

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Ive tried to avoid it but I am gonna need to get accutane. The acne on my shoulders, back, and chest hasn't got better and is starting to hurt.

I read on here somewhere that a low dose works and helps avoid sides.

My questions are what it the least amount I can take that will help with acne and avoid the sides? and does anyone have experience with researchstop accutane b/c i dont have insurance?
 
20mg is the lowest i would go. dont wait, if it has been continually getting worse. If theyre hurting its time to get on now! dangers of accutane are severly over stated. I havnt used their accutane but have heard great things. Im using other products from them that are on the mark.
 
I was on 80mgs per day for 5 months (doc prescribed). After 3 months it finally started clearing up. Got a lot of nose bleeds on accutane. Make sure u avoid any large doses of vitamin a. Vitamin a will exacerbate the side effects.

I'm not sure if 20mgs will be enough, but u can always up the dose if need be. Split your dose taken, half in the morning and half in the evening.
 
Have you considered doxycycline?
 
Protocol
I usually break out really bad

I started this and its worked so far!

Acidophilus-as directed on label
Chromium Picolinate- as directed on label
Colloidal Silver- as directed on label, orally and apply with cotton to affected area
Essential fatty acids- gram every meal, 4g max a day
Potassium- 99mg daily
Vitamin A- 25,000 IU a day until healed, then cruise on 5,000 IU daily
Vitamin B complex- 100mg of each major B vitamin 3 times daily
Vitamin B3- 100mg 3 times daily
Vitamin C- 1g, 1.6g, 3times ED, use buffered form
Vitamin D3- 400 IU daily
Vitamin E- 400 IU daily
Zinc- 80mg max a day
Garlic- 1 cap with meals

-this all came from my natural healing book, works great!
 
BTW...
I still broke out after accutane...
I have doxycyclin on hand...but dont need to use it!

Try all those vitamins, order now brand off amazon!

accutane is nice tho! take alot of liver care!
 
20mg is the lowest i would go. dont wait, if it has been continually getting worse. If theyre hurting its time to get on now! dangers of accutane are severly over stated. I havnt used their accutane but have heard great things. Im using other products from them that are on the mark.

I agree 100% the dangers are in the hepatotoxicity, so take some liver care... problem solved Doctors haha
 
I'd rather not try accutane but it looks like I have to. But, if doxyciline or or those vitamins work I would rather do that.
 
I'd rather not try accutane but it looks like I have to. But, if doxyciline or or those vitamins work I would rather do that.

Used 20 mg/day from RS and I can't be happier. Acne is 100% gone. I plan on running this for 5 months, I am in my last 2 weeks. Didn't have any bloods done so I can't comment on my liver values. Only side I have had was dried lips and cracks @ the corner of mouth (both sides).
 
I agree 100% the dangers are in the hepatotoxicity, so take some liver care... problem solved Doctors haha

most hepatic issues stem from the rediculously high doses that have previously been prescribed, quite often in excess of 100mg. 20mg/day is just as effective for most and has tremendously lower rate of side effects.
 
Protocol
I usually break out really bad

I started this and its worked so far!

Acidophilus-as directed on label
Chromium Picolinate- as directed on label
Colloidal Silver- as directed on label, orally and apply with cotton to affected area
Essential fatty acids- gram every meal, 4g max a day
Potassium- 99mg daily
Vitamin A- 25,000 IU a day until healed, then cruise on 5,000 IU daily
Vitamin B complex- 100mg of each major B vitamin 3 times daily
Vitamin B3- 100mg 3 times daily
Vitamin C- 1g, 1.6g, 3times ED, use buffered form
Vitamin D3- 400 IU daily
Vitamin E- 400 IU daily
Zinc- 80mg max a day
Garlic- 1 cap with meals

-this all came from my natural healing book, works great!

well... some of that is OK... mostly not so much.

acidophilus-- ok--- better is mixed strains of probiotics
chromium---eh
silver- good as topical antibacterial can also help with wound healing

4 grams max EFA? why? fats are all about ratio, though typically one needs much higher omega 3 to achieve balance (before moving to a sustaining and balanced fat intake), since generally most people get and have been getting very little omega 3 and a hell of a lot of omega 6 and 9 with a good amount of saturated and trans fatty acids (trans fats need to be eliminated- they are just all kinds of evil)

potassium-- dumb- to limit to 99mg because thats the limit allowed per dose is DUMB... dietary pottassium should be at least 2 preferably 4 to1 to sodium. if diet does not provide one should supplement-- potassium citrate or gluconate powders being fine.

DO NOT TAKE THAT AMOUNT OF VITAMIN A. if you want to load up use carotenes. if taking isotretinoin be careful with either, since it is a vitamin A derivative.

b-complex- ok- better off taking individual b's and using the bio-forms like P5P

C- OK

D3- good, take with calcium and copper (some forms of d-3 certainly better)

E- fine- but mixed tocopherols and certainly not DL form

garlic- ok- want to get stabilized and standardized to get anti bacterial and anti-yeast effects



things not included that should be:

WATER- hydration is key to maintaining skin fluidity, healing, removal of wastes, etc.. etc..

Sesamin/episesamin- reccomend Sesapure- pparalpha agonist- modulates fat metabolism and fatty acid utilization- anti-inflammatory (modulates delta-5-desaturase)

Green tea extract (standardized for EGCG 40-60% is a good range, best if taken with piperine and small amount of vitamin C to increase uptake)- quite similar, though differing binding, to sesamin. also increases glucose uptake and clearance.

R-lipoic with biotin- Reccomend Glucorell- also works through PPAR, though modulating ppargamma as well as pparalpha. synergy with the above.

GLA (from borage oil)- anti-inflammatory- forms DHGLA- blocks inflamatory prostaglandins- synergy with sesamin/episesamin- since delta-5 is converting enzyme.

low dose aspirin (20mg twice a day) stacked with alcar- modulates cox-2 (not inhibitor)- very beneficial with respect to health as well as skin.


NOTE- sesamin/episesamin, GLA, aspirin all decrease platelet aggregation and reduce clotting. so you dont want to take if you are having surgery or while recovering from surgery or injury where bleeding might be an issue. these effects are dose dependant, so stacking them up you should use less.
 
Ive been on 20mg a day for 30 daze. Roaccutan that is..
I take a liver aid by molecular nutrition has about 1500mg of milk thistle and other liver aids in it.
My acne is mostly on my back, but i do get it on shoulders chest arms and they hurt, big deep acne..
Since ive been on had severly dry lips blistex helps that, within the first 2 weeks had bleeding from the pooper which i hear is a typical side effect.
Acne- no better still there hurts like a bitch...
 
Ive been on 20mg a day for 30 daze. Roaccutan that is..
I take a liver aid by molecular nutrition has about 1500mg of milk thistle and other liver aids in it.
My acne is mostly on my back, but i do get it on shoulders chest arms and they hurt, big deep acne..
Since ive been on had severly dry lips blistex helps that, within the first 2 weeks had bleeding from the pooper which i hear is a typical side effect.
Acne- no better still there hurts like a bitch...
IMO thats not a high enough dose for what you are describing. I had very moderate acne on shoulders and a tiny bit on back, and i was on 60mgs ED. It started working in 3+ weeks (chapped lips), and in 8 weeks it was ALL cleared up with no new acne. It came from one of the board sponsors, and is TOP NOTCH!

For the OP, definately dont waste time and get on the accutane!! The sides seem worse than they actually are. ALL i had was slightly dry lips @ 60mg ED. Good luck bud!
 
i did accutane prescribed by dr...my brother did accutane prescribed by dr...they pyramid the dose and test your blood while dosage increases...my brother had severe reaction to it very quickly and had to be pulled off...his triglycerides went through the roof! basically, it is not something to be messed with lightly...i would find a way to do it right with dr supervision, at the very least speak to a dr and find out how often to get blood tests etc... my bro was 31 when he died, when autopsied it was found that he had 70% blockage of one major artery by heart and 60% blockage near another...cant say it was from accutane but dr was very alarmed at his tests etc.... be careful
 
Only side I have had was dried lips and cracks @ the corner of mouth (both sides).

Me too.. I am on week 3 and the cracks @ the corners are downright painful first thing in the morning as I try to get my mouth opening again. I use burt bees lip balm and my lips are fine. Basically no chapping at all, but the corners are another story all together. I am on 30mgs a day btw.
 
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low dose and/or low dose combination therapy is the way to go.

nizoral shampoo, nizoral creme (anti-androgens) and isotrex as well as anti-bacterials can be "stacked".

controlling estrogen (exemestane), prolactin (pramipexole or cabergoline) and DHT (low dose finasteride) can all help to decrease acne.
 

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