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Old 02-19-2011, 11:20 AM
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I'm concerned about my creatinine levels. (Blood results included)

I compiled a list of all the blood tests I have taken ever since starting AAS use. In bold is the date blood work was taken...

9-15-09

Creatinine, Serum 1.59 HIGH mg/dL 0.76-1.27

eGFR 55 LOW mL/min/1.73 >59

3-10-10

Creatinine, Serum 1.43 HIGH mg/dL 0.76-1.27

eGFR >59 mL/min/1.73 >59

5-7-10

Creatinine, Serum 1.80 HIGH mg/dL 0.76-1.27

eGFR 47 LOW mL/min/1.73 >59

7-29-10

Creatinine, Serum 1.74 HIGH mg/dL 0.76-1.27

eGFR 49 LOW mL/min/1.73 >59

10-28-10

Creatinine, Serum 1.67 HIGH mg/dL 0.76-1.27

eGFR 51 LOW mL/min/1.73 >59

1-27-11

Creatinine, Serum 1.80 HIGH mg/dL 0.76-1.27

eGFR 47 LOW mL/min/1.73 >59


These 2 are the only kidney levels that are ever off. Is this something to be concerned about? I know people with higher amounts of muscle mass will have higher creatinine levels but a friend of mine has quite a bit of muscle and his creatinine levels are always within normal range. So should I be concerned? Is there something I can do to bring them down?
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Old 02-19-2011, 11:31 AM
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I compiled a list of all the blood tests I have taken ever since starting AAS use. In bold is the date blood work was taken...

9-15-09

Creatinine, Serum 1.59 HIGH mg/dL 0.76-1.27

eGFR 55 LOW mL/min/1.73 >59

3-10-10

Creatinine, Serum 1.43 HIGH mg/dL 0.76-1.27

eGFR >59 mL/min/1.73 >59

5-7-10

Creatinine, Serum 1.80 HIGH mg/dL 0.76-1.27

eGFR 47 LOW mL/min/1.73 >59

7-29-10

Creatinine, Serum 1.74 HIGH mg/dL 0.76-1.27

eGFR 49 LOW mL/min/1.73 >59

10-28-10

Creatinine, Serum 1.67 HIGH mg/dL 0.76-1.27

eGFR 51 LOW mL/min/1.73 >59

1-27-11

Creatinine, Serum 1.80 HIGH mg/dL 0.76-1.27

eGFR 47 LOW mL/min/1.73 >59


These 2 are the only kidney levels that are ever off. Is this something to be concerned about? I know people with higher amounts of muscle mass will have higher creatinine levels but a friend of mine has quite a bit of muscle and his creatinine levels are always within normal range. So should I be concerned? Is there something I can do to bring them down?
Are you taking any supplements with creatine? Is not good idea to take creatin when you are taking AAS.
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Old 02-19-2011, 11:37 AM
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Are you taking any supplements with creatine? Is not good idea to take creatin when you are taking AAS.
Only 1-2 of the blood tests I was taking creatine at the time.
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What is your BUN? My creative is always a little high like 1.3 and my doc is worried at all about it. I'm not carrying a lot of muscle mass either compared to most of you. My BUN is around 29 usually when I consume a lot of protein the day before. It is 22 on a more normal persons amount of protein.
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Old 02-19-2011, 12:41 PM
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Only 1-2 of the blood tests I was taking creatine at the time.
Think of it like this.......blood creatinine levels are like a STATIC, ONE TIME measurement of a river..........eGFR is just an estimate of how much water runs through this river, from the serum creatinine level ( not taking into account that it may rain)..........a 24hour creatinine clearance will tell you how much water actually runs through this river ( for real) .....so get the 24 hour creatinine clearance test.
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What is your BUN? My creative is always a little high like 1.3 and my doc is worried at all about it. I'm not carrying a lot of muscle mass either compared to most of you. My BUN is around 29 usually when I consume a lot of protein the day before. It is 22 on a more normal persons amount of protein.
My BUN in the same order for the dates above

19

11

15

18

13

27 (was on PSMF at the time)
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Old 02-20-2011, 06:55 AM
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I do know that your eGFR is okay... <15 indicates kidney failure... In elderly people we look at eGFR and <15 can qualify for hospice services but we have to make sure first it's not a hydration or nutrition problem... Hydration status can make a big difference in the lab results!
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Whats your BP?

Controlling your BP will improve those numbers. Buy your own cuff and take it regularily.

I guarantee you have high BP.
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Are you taking any supplements with creatine? Is not good idea to take creatin when you are taking AAS. ????
Never knew this. Most of my protein supps have creatine added in (True protein).

can you please elaborate as to how damaging this may be.
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Avoid training/cardio for two days prior to the test and be off all supplements for at least week. That should give you a good baseline reading.
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