Tren and liver toxicity

[tr]

I've read some stories/rumours that tren is liver toxic while some claims it isn't, so what's the real truth? There were done some studies with tren and liver toxicity, but it was done with parabolan (tren hex) and what about tren a or ent? I've also read that tren is not toxic by itself, but ml per ml tren vs test is 10 or more time more toxic due ba, there are 10+ times more benzyl alcohol, so only ba makes tren toxic. What's the real truth? Opinions, results with blood work etc

 

[jm425]

I've had bloodwork done while I was on tren many years ago. My liver values were elevated beyond the high range for normal. My piss was brown all the time on tren as well. No other oil has done that to me. As a result I have never touched it since. There are guys that will argue that tren isn't liver toxic, but I have to disagree with that. All my friends that have used tren in the past who have gotten labs done came back with elevated liver values. Some in the higher range of normal and some came back way higher. Anything that turns piss that dark and jacks up liver enzymes is harsh on the body no matter what anyone else thinks/says.

 

[earch]

hmmm Im starting a course of accutane in a few days and had planned on using tren ace in 6 weeks for a blast.... should I reconsider the tren?

Id only be taking 20mg of accutane and of course liver supps.

 

[Supa Diesel g33k]

I've read some stories/rumours that tren is liver toxic while some claims it isn't, so what's the real truth? There were done some studies with tren and liver toxicity, but it was done with parabolan (tren hex) and what about tren a or ent? I've also read that tren is not toxic by itself, but ml per ml tren vs test is 10 or more time more toxic due ba, there are 10+ times more benzyl alcohol, so only ba makes tren toxic. What's the real truth? Opinions, results with blood work etc

Ive used tren in about every blast that I have done over the last 10 years and i am currently cruising on 200mg test e and 150mg tren e. I get bloodwork every 3 months and my enzymes are elevated but still in the normal (high) range. IME as long as you keep the doses moderate and take all of the necassary liver supports (tudca/udca, liv 52, milkthisle, etc) you wont have any issues.

 

[Jizzmo]

what if you bake the tren to evaporate the benzyl alcohol?
at one point i went up to 100mg tren ace a day (1ml) with some prop (like 30mg/day) and my body seemed to fight against the amount of benzyl alcohol from the injections (not sure but i think that the BA was the culprit). every injection became red, hot, swollen and hurt like a BITCH. i thought it was an abscess on the first injection, but the following 3 were just as bad.
was not funny because i pinned outer quads and teardrops on both legs. could hardly walk for like a week.
i decided to bake my tren ace (i read that baking it at 220°F for ~20mins should evaporate some BA without damaging the tren) and i dropped it to 50mg ed and switched out prop for enanthate and everything was fine again, nearly no pip, no swelling, no redness.

im on tren ace for nearly 14 weeks now, between 350mg-700mg a week.
pretty much no sides except for some night sweats (especially when i go >200mg test a week) and some mood swings (currently experimenting with just 10mg dbol a day to raise the mood, not quite sure yet but seems to work).
oh and i wake up exactly every 2 hours, but i fall asleep quickly again.

 

[Pusher]

i dunno why you think there's 10x more BA in tren than other AAS.

I use 2% ba & 20% bb in almost everything.

10x would equal a 20% dose of ba... not even t400 has that.

 

[testocules]

I've had bloodwork done while I was on tren many years ago. My liver values were elevated beyond the high range for normal. My piss was brown all the time on tren as well. No other oil has done that to me. As a result I have never touched it since. There are guys that will argue that tren isn't liver toxic, but I have to disagree with that. All my friends that have used tren in the past who have gotten labs done came back with elevated liver values. Some in the higher range of normal and some came back way higher. Anything that turns piss that dark and jacks up liver enzymes is harsh on the body no matter what anyone else thinks/says.

I've been tempted to try tren, but health must come first. I would freak out if that happened to me.

 

[hilly2008]

Have bad bloods done after using 350mg tren ace for 6 weeks and 500mcg Mtren last ten days of that period leading upto a show n liver alt was at 52. Range is 4-44 I believe.

 

[flipper2012]

Have bad bloods done after using 350mg tren ace for 6 weeks and 500mcg Mtren last ten days of that period leading upto a show n liver alt was at 52. Range is 4-44 I believe.

That's not bad at all

 

[jack of all]

Just had liver values done while on 150mg tren a eod and they were well in normal range. Just test and tren.

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[anarchocapitalist]

i think the problem is tren pellets used to make tren ace back in the day. u never heard of problems with parabolan but lots with the pellets.

 

[Pusher]

well, back when i was drinking heavily (2L vodka/day), my ast/alt were in the 240's. that was '03. quit drinking and increased my AAS dose's (drinking never got in the way of training), 4 months later my #'s were down in the 50's.

i think the liver toxicity of AAS is a bit over-stated... however, it's best practice to use a liver-supp and anti-ox.

 

[flipper2012]

Alcohol is MUCH MUCH worse

 

[thatbloke]

i been on tren for almost 2 years straight now, doses vary from low to high doses

liver values never been elevated other then one time after i used some anadrol, but came back to normal a month later while still on tren

 

[nickels]

I thought kidney toxicity was the bigger issue with tren.

 

[flipper2012]

I thought kidney toxicity was the bigger issue with tren.

I thought this too and a lot because of the pellets tren was being made wit

 

[flipper2012]

Or blood pressure issues which really hurts the kidneys

 

[TNH]

I don't think tren itself is hard on the kidneys, it just makes your urine darker from the metabolites. As someone else mentioned, I think any increased kidney stress is from the increased BP that tren is known to cause.
My liver enzymes are not affected badly by tren, not nearly as bad as orals anyway. It does do a number on my lipids though, just as bad as harsh orals like halo.

 

[smackthatAAS]

Does tren still cause high BP while using low test?

 

[kyleb]

Tren is one steroid i will not touch because of all the horrible sides ive seen besides elevated liver values...seen someone lactate on it, develop a huge chest lump, piss pure brown....and to top it off yea you may look great on it but once you off...whomp whomp...