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Funny .......I have to admit I enjoy Gh15's posts......alot of what he sayes is pretty accurate.........but I am abit bummed as that cycle was printed in the 90s as an undercover pro's cycle in Iron Man mag [ It might be copied here ,or on some other forum for sure] back then it was said to be Nasser [ because he was said to be abit mean spirited and sarcastic when it came to people wanting the secrets from he and Milos so he made up that bullshit .......some say Gh 15 is nasser ......Jim or Tom would know .......Tom will out him if it is Nasser ,cuz Nasser fucked off their friendship.......And Tom is a great guy so it is Nasser's loss...Jim isn't going to say if he knows cause he is a class guy and he is that way...some say it is Ruel or James......fuck I dont know or care I enjoy his stuff for the most part]
I will say this ,that cycle posted was 90s bbing for sure . It became more is better , and take this drug to counter that drug type of mentality.[ I am glad I stopped ,before I got into that type of mentality ......I was heading that way slowly......saw many destroyed by this as well ] I don't think the doses are right [although some did something like thay for sure ] I don't think anyone took that much gh back then [ too expensive] and fuck, you would have to take dnp,t3,ephedrine,gh,clen if you took that much insulin [ you would need 5000 -6000kals in just carbs not to fall into a coma......lol] And you would feel horrible injesting this much shit [as well as eating 10000 kals a day ]......the pain from the injects and sides would make it near impossible to train......that is where the nubain became big ,also the pain killers and ghb as well. [sythol added to the pain meds addiction as well]
These cycles that appear from time to time [ titus's stack , Dorian's ,muntzer's] For the most part are bs [although craig was the epitimy of the use this for that mentality.....and he told me his cycles and they were around 3grams a weekand everything drug in the world to go with ...even coke on show day ......but obvisously he ruined his physique with these cycles .....he looked way better in his USA days than as a pro .....and he was an extremist as we all know by now ] Most pros I know and knew [ as well as top amatuers ]use beteen 1000mgs and 2000mgs total a week ,2-6 ius gh and some use/used slin at maybe 10 -40ius on various scedules........think about it .....back then that cycle would easily run 5000 - 6000 grand a month ........add food , housing , ect......you would need to be selling alot of gear [ alot ] ,rec drugs , doing a heck of alot of gay for pay type shit for that .........cause back then contracts were 30 grand tops and most got nothing ........every guy I knew struggled just to get by unless they had a gay sugar daddy or were moving huge ammounts of recs....The 90s [ the bodies were the best ......especially 93 - 96 ] but nothing became further from the greek ideal of a sound mind / sound body during than that period of time........or the beginings of sport revolving around physical culture and health/friendship[what a shame ]........A neat time to witness and train during for sure [ at least interesting / fun ,although self destructive] But look at the cost of that life style ? For what ? So many dead , jailed , drug addicted , souless, or sick............after seeing what I have ....I will take the reeves look ......or Bob Paris /francious Muse look [ those 2 guys only ran 600 mgs a wek total in their prime and hated doing it] ..........6 ft 220-230 can be art and appreciated by all if done right[very lean ] with decent genes .........At 37 ,that look drives me........in the 90s it was being the biggest strongest 300 lber around........way different look , level of health , and mindset........I think the guys especially the guys in the O are pushing the envelope still [ maybe worse even ] But over all ,although I am far removed from the mix these days .......it appears slowly the sport is changing..........If Anthony ,Heath, Cormier , Alves , Rockel ,priest,Jackson and a few others can stay successful in the sport then the drug thing will slowly get better cause the looks will change.........None of those guys above take lot of gear with the exception of Cormier , and Anthony may of upped his game now that he is with Chad [ could be a mistake in the long run for him] Like Dante was trying to say on another couple forums awhile back.......the sport is really about beauty ,balance , structure , shape , and muscle bellies/ attachments.........too many guys risks their health , freedom , and finances for a look that won't last once the drugs stop and for alook that isnt going to really get them anywhere .............Drugs are a big part of it no doubt , but how you respond to them is even bigger [ and that is genes too fellas ]
My final word ,is I like Gh 15 's posts . He does contradict himself at times and he may be a bullshit artist [I don't care ].......but for the most part he is cool , a straight shooter , and he adds alot to that board for sure..........but the cycle is way old , from Iron Man mag in the 90s , and it isnt his unless he was the undercover guy interviewed back then[ nasser ] But to a much less degree at least half I would say by the late 90s that is how things were starting to head at the higher levels ......there is a price to pay for abuse and irresponsibilty ..........ask yours selves does it make more sense realistically for you to be a competive bber or a physical culturist ? If look at the reality most will know the answer .............
I will say this ,that cycle posted was 90s bbing for sure . It became more is better , and take this drug to counter that drug type of mentality.[ I am glad I stopped ,before I got into that type of mentality ......I was heading that way slowly......saw many destroyed by this as well ] I don't think the doses are right [although some did something like thay for sure ] I don't think anyone took that much gh back then [ too expensive] and fuck, you would have to take dnp,t3,ephedrine,gh,clen if you took that much insulin [ you would need 5000 -6000kals in just carbs not to fall into a coma......lol] And you would feel horrible injesting this much shit [as well as eating 10000 kals a day ]......the pain from the injects and sides would make it near impossible to train......that is where the nubain became big ,also the pain killers and ghb as well. [sythol added to the pain meds addiction as well]
These cycles that appear from time to time [ titus's stack , Dorian's ,muntzer's] For the most part are bs [although craig was the epitimy of the use this for that mentality.....and he told me his cycles and they were around 3grams a weekand everything drug in the world to go with ...even coke on show day ......but obvisously he ruined his physique with these cycles .....he looked way better in his USA days than as a pro .....and he was an extremist as we all know by now ] Most pros I know and knew [ as well as top amatuers ]use beteen 1000mgs and 2000mgs total a week ,2-6 ius gh and some use/used slin at maybe 10 -40ius on various scedules........think about it .....back then that cycle would easily run 5000 - 6000 grand a month ........add food , housing , ect......you would need to be selling alot of gear [ alot ] ,rec drugs , doing a heck of alot of gay for pay type shit for that .........cause back then contracts were 30 grand tops and most got nothing ........every guy I knew struggled just to get by unless they had a gay sugar daddy or were moving huge ammounts of recs....The 90s [ the bodies were the best ......especially 93 - 96 ] but nothing became further from the greek ideal of a sound mind / sound body during than that period of time........or the beginings of sport revolving around physical culture and health/friendship[what a shame ]........A neat time to witness and train during for sure [ at least interesting / fun ,although self destructive] But look at the cost of that life style ? For what ? So many dead , jailed , drug addicted , souless, or sick............after seeing what I have ....I will take the reeves look ......or Bob Paris /francious Muse look [ those 2 guys only ran 600 mgs a wek total in their prime and hated doing it] ..........6 ft 220-230 can be art and appreciated by all if done right[very lean ] with decent genes .........At 37 ,that look drives me........in the 90s it was being the biggest strongest 300 lber around........way different look , level of health , and mindset........I think the guys especially the guys in the O are pushing the envelope still [ maybe worse even ] But over all ,although I am far removed from the mix these days .......it appears slowly the sport is changing..........If Anthony ,Heath, Cormier , Alves , Rockel ,priest,Jackson and a few others can stay successful in the sport then the drug thing will slowly get better cause the looks will change.........None of those guys above take lot of gear with the exception of Cormier , and Anthony may of upped his game now that he is with Chad [ could be a mistake in the long run for him] Like Dante was trying to say on another couple forums awhile back.......the sport is really about beauty ,balance , structure , shape , and muscle bellies/ attachments.........too many guys risks their health , freedom , and finances for a look that won't last once the drugs stop and for alook that isnt going to really get them anywhere .............Drugs are a big part of it no doubt , but how you respond to them is even bigger [ and that is genes too fellas ]
My final word ,is I like Gh 15 's posts . He does contradict himself at times and he may be a bullshit artist [I don't care ].......but for the most part he is cool , a straight shooter , and he adds alot to that board for sure..........but the cycle is way old , from Iron Man mag in the 90s , and it isnt his unless he was the undercover guy interviewed back then[ nasser ] But to a much less degree at least half I would say by the late 90s that is how things were starting to head at the higher levels ......there is a price to pay for abuse and irresponsibilty ..........ask yours selves does it make more sense realistically for you to be a competive bber or a physical culturist ? If look at the reality most will know the answer .............
