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LoneRanger 11-19-2004 10:56 AM

Androderm 5mg

I've been training hard for many years, but with extremely little gain when it comes to strength/volume.. :( Fortunately I've been competing in sports where strength isn't a must, so I've managed to compensate with good technique. I've also been depressed periods of my life, as well as having some problems in bed.. I heard that all three problems can be symptoms of a single problem ,namely lack of testosterone. And when I heard that all three problems might be fixed with a single drug, I was stunned!! :)

I had my testosterone levels measured ,and they were very low, barely within the range for what is considered beeing a normal value. It is good that my testosterone level is at least this high, naturally. But at the same time this also meant that I wouldn't get a supplement to increase it. ..At least not from my doctor ;)

But when I went online to search for the Androderm 2.5 or 5.0 mg patch (preferably 5.0mg) I found a jungle of retailers, and I guess a lot of them are bogus or?? And this is why I'm here on Your site.

- Does anybody have a good advice on how to sort the genuine retailers from the fakes?

I hope somebody is able to give me a hint on how to do this, I don't want to give my money to an a**hole , just to get nothing in return..


xcelbeyond 11-19-2004 10:33 PM

IMHO you need to be asking how effective an "andro" product is compared to "real" testesterone.

One big factor in it's effectiveness is the type of transdermal being used. The bigger question is how well "your" body will convert this to testoserone. Since "both" are equally illegal now (thank you f*cking congress :mad: ), I'd say go for the real deal. My guess is you'd rather put on a patch than take an injection. But I don't believe the two alternatives are even in the same ballpark.

LoneRanger 11-20-2004 02:30 AM

..I considered doing injections back when I was competing, so I've thought about doing injections. But at the same time I feel that it is much safer for me to do patches. I won't have to hide them, from my wife or my colleagues.
I definetely want to try the Androderm first, to find out if my body can get the amount of testosterone that I need ,just from patches. (Fingers crossed!)


zephyr22 11-23-2004 04:26 AM

Androderm is a steroid. It is testosterone with the patch transdermal system. I think they are ok at best. You would be better of getting and a long testosterone ester (cypionaten enthenate) injection once every two weeks or every month. The patch is a tricky little sucker to keep your blood levels of testosterone maintained. The seem to peak then drop, peak then drop. Just what ive seen clinically. Later.

RicPhoenix 11-23-2004 07:18 AM

Hi all,

You stated that your testosterone was at the low end of the range of normal testosterone quantity for a man your age. So this means that your testosterone product is NORMAL. It also may mean that using more testosterone is not likely the solution to your concerns. For example, if the testosterone production is within the normal range but at the low end can still display hyper masculine characteristics and be awesome at sport. A skinny man can be at the high end of the normal range and Ronnie Coleman could be at the low end of the normal range...yet Ronnie would display greater natural muscle. There are more factors, other than testosterone, that determine how you display masculine characteristics. I think this is one of the first lessons a person learns in a genetics class...phenotypes vs genotypes? :confused:

PharmD27 11-28-2004 02:40 PM

You said you're level was on borderline low. How old are you?

They use the same levels (standard) for an 18yo and a 70yo! So, I think borderline low levels should always be treated. Most 20-45 yo guys will experience problems (erectile & muscle retention dysfunction) at the low end of normal in this case. Ask your doctor to see an endocrine specialist or seek out a second opinion.

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