OK so people mention Ronnie Coleman, who was a genetic wonder stepping onstage @ 297...fucking unheard of. Yeah i just started posting here, the long time forum "geniuses" are going out of their way pointing out how im so fucking stupid and inconsistant with my posts, and basically shit i am posting is being taken out of context....ok if i posted Kevin Levrone's remarks by accident, don't know how i did that, but im msorry if that was the case. it changes my whole opinion. In any case, if im already labeled as dumb, am i the only one who knows and is meantioning Ronnie Coleman had scientists or doctors from laboratories giving him grownth drugs...that were basically little bottles with just a set of numbers or letters on them, and told how much to take everyday? All you gifted big shot know it alls haven't touched on this> all you can do is give me some outdated and half true info on EPO for example in an effort to point out to the board how fucking stupid i am? cmon bros!! Why are none of the "self proclaimed" giftd geniuses on here not saying why pros like Ronnie Coleman had distended guts and recently Kai Greene? Does anyone know why? Let an inconsistant, confused "newbie" tell you. Because when you take high amounts of GH and IGF-1, of course your adding new satellite muscle fibers, but your INTESTINES have the most IGF-1 receptors in your whole body, so your intestines are growing faster than your muscles, thats why when posing, when they exhale you can see their gut looks like its hiding an alien baby. So before some of you bros jump on your bandwagon to follow your leader who carries more muscle than you...make sure when you bash me your not bringing a slingshot to a gunfight, because im just bringing facts. No need to impress you guys. Hope this post helped...
Actually, organ growth is usually one of the more minor contributors. I wrote at least 5 articles on this subject, breaking every factor down one by one. I just recently wrote a 2-part article on the subject--just a couple weeks ago.
Aside from that, why are you bringing up organ growth and "educating" us about the effect of IGF-1 on the intestines? This wasn't even being discussed until you brought it up. Besides, I am fairly certain the large majority here are well aware that IGF-1 can cause organ growth, although to what degree can vary drastically. there is a lot of misinformation on the subject of gut distension and in most cases, organ growth is one of the more minor causes.
This is why Kai Green, after being labeled as pregnant at the 2010 Olympia, came back in 2012 with a waistline nearly completely devoid of distension. Organs don't shrink once they've grown, so the fact he was able to almost completely eliminate any visible distension onstage shows there were other, more pressing factors involved.
On the same note, Jay Cutler was almost certainly using his fair share of GH for many years, yet he never had any distension at all. In fact, he could pull off a mini-vacuum in the front double biceps.
Why would Jay--someone who we can reasonably say used quite a bit if growth--not have any noticeable distension, while other pros who probably used less GH have significant distension? The reason is that there are a LOT of potential factors involved in stomach distension, but most people are mis-led into thinking organ growth is always the primary cause. It's not. It's only a contributor and only occasionally is it the primary offender.
I do have a question for you, though. Who told you that Ronnie had a "team" of secret scientists and doctors working for him, providing him with top secret "growth agents"? Man, I wonder what those "secret" drugs were, being that no one has yet heard of them.
It seems you have fallen victim to the "secret drug" theory. Here's my suggestion to you. Stop posting wherever else it is you post--because clearly you are not being taught correct and reliable information. You stand a much better chance of getting correct info here. Do you know how many highly respected men post here? There are more here than anywhere else, by a landslide.
Do you really believe that Ronnie had a secret team of physician/scientists supplying him with powerful, mysterious growth agents? Instead of ripping you open on this one, I will simply ask that you supply the source of your information--because I am certain you weren't there in person when the lab coats came around to drop off Ronnie's top secret stash.
One last thing. Did you just try to defend your EPO comment? Sorry, buddy, but we provided no half-truths--only full truths regarding EPO, which is that EPO is stupid for a BB'r to take, especially an AAS user. Yes, I know people have used it, but people do a lot of dumb things and just because some pros may have experimented with it does not mean it is a good idea.
Now, Ian understand why athletes who require increased endurance would use it, but I can't think of a decent reason for a BB'r to use it. Steroids already increase RBC's enough as it is--sometimes to dangerous levels. Increasing hematocrit even further would supply no benefit, while substantially increasing heart attack/stroke risk.
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