DEA Announces Major Steroid Operation -See RICK COLLINS

[ThinkTank]

I think it is inevitable that some sponsors will soon accept cash only for the donation, and probably a safer route as this would minimize electronic transfers, to which is a source for red flags. Minimizing the electronic footprint would be ideal. I have often pondered on the system and its current state and speculate that those involved have become relaxed with its ease.


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That would be old school. That is how it was in the 80's and early 90's....

 

[1bigmofo]

That would be old school. That is how it was in the 80's and early 90's....

BITCOIN

 

[Skins]

BITCOIN

For now, possibly... Still, it's electronic, which leaves a footprint and I think
requires the receiving party to "convert" the assets to liquid (cash), thus further involving banks (3rd party government institutions with I. D. And ledger tracking)


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[westcoastbber]

Maybe I'm wrong but alot of the time I thought labs getting busted were those who were also involved in narcs, for alot of guys narcs and bodybuilding go hand in hand so UGLs also having a hand in GHB, pain pills, coke, amphs seems pretty common

I have a couple friends in different aspects of law enforcement and they either use or couldn't care less they say "why am I going to go after steroids when I want the heroin and coke dealers"

 

[Marvin Martian]

I had no clue that some of the UGL were sourcing pain meds / GHB???

 

[LK3]

For now, possibly... Still, it's electronic, which leaves a footprint and I think
requires the receiving party to "convert" the assets to liquid (cash), thus further involving banks (3rd party government institutions with I. D. And ledger tracking)


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you can buy them in cash.

I have some friends who are quite into it..

I wish it were a good and easy way...


even cim has problems

 

[maldorf]

For now, possibly... Still, it's electronic, which leaves a footprint and I think
requires the receiving party to "convert" the assets to liquid (cash), thus further involving banks (3rd party government institutions with I. D. And ledger tracking)


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Isnt Western Union still the preferred method? Always seemed to be the best way to me. Nothing to worry about when you use it the right way.

 

[allbeef]

Sorry I am not much of an ongoing contributor. I have always been considered a friend ( in this business there can't really be friends ) by guys like Mike. I even had to call Ricks office a long time ago.

I havent handled gear in over 10 years beyond personal amounts but I remained a friend of IPs until fate took him away.

Theres nothing new under the sun. The game will go on. Without UGs there would not be a game, and without you there would be no sources.

LE has always been more for us than against us. But sometimes we are our own worst enemies and we because of greed or cutting corners create exposure and basically deliver our programs to them. We are all guilty.

My concern is that they are delibertly holding back alot of information while they get the cooperation of those who went down. We know hulk, maybe the bengal tiger. But this was much bigger than that.

There are 90 guys facing big penalties and 90% are going to roll.

Be very careful if you are a player and do not assume that everythings okay in your relationships. Time will tell all.

But give it time, lay low and see what shakes out.

There will be so much to learn beyond who went down. Always these are opportunities to learn how to go forward alittle wiser.

You got to start compartmentalizing your risk. Labs with all the product, shippers with all their inventory! It should never be this way.

Wise up, lay low, and pray for those poor brothers who have fallen,


Ricks a great resource, a lawyer, but a friend of the community as well. Make the call even if you can not afford him. He will help focus your efforts.

Its a tough time when people get hurt like this.

Just be glad its not you!


Allbeef

 

[Atexus]

1. As AllBeef astutely pointed out, this is NOT over yet. There will be a second smaller spike of busts which will get individual media attention over the next few months.

2. In regards to transferring payments, there are flaws to every system.

Western union locations all have cameras, so it's easy to capture images, time stamps, etc of people picking up funds repeatedly in a relatively local area.

Bitcoin has the blockchain, which Silicon Valley has already been setting up companies to read the blockchain to watch for the spending habits of various accounts.

CIM is obvious, it has to go to a physical address and picked up by someone.

The thing about transferring money is not that it will ever be perfect, but that you make it so difficult and costly for the government to track the payment that it's not financially worth their while to go after you.

 

[animal71]

Just put up this article. Some of the labs busted are exposed here: Operation Cyber Juice 2015 - Evolutionary.org

 

[mp5navy187]

So in other words stock up cause this is getting bad quick?

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[Kaladryn]

BITCOIN

^pay attention smart people

 

[Massive G]

It's been 24 years since AAS were made controlled substances and to this day I am still in shock, when every other article is about marijuana legalization - AAS are still demonized.
This nation is so full of fat drunken junkies that dope up on red bulls, sugar sodas fast food and pot and alcohol it's not even funny.
These diets are killing people turning pre pubescent boys into mouses instead of men, If they adjusted the hormone levels from an early age we wouldn't have all these weirdos running the press and trying to make us think homosexuality and transexuality is normal and ok.

Rant over, gonna take a sub q shot of test for my hrt and be thankful I am out of this mess and will never be sorry for the lifestyle I chose as I look at my friends and people in my age and wonder how the hell they make it trough each day they are on so many pills from the pharm co's and so unhealthy.
It's spread all the way down to the toddler level now and will only get worse.

I read an article the other day that our greatest threat to national defense is that in 10 - 15 years none of the people signing up for the armed services will qualify as they will be too obese.

Did I say rant over?

 

[mp5navy187]

Preach

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[Akamai]

Sorry I am not much of an ongoing contributor. I have always been considered a friend ( in this business there can't really be friends ) by guys like Mike. I even had to call Ricks office a long time ago.

I havent handled gear in over 10 years beyond personal amounts but I remained a friend of IPs until fate took him away.

Theres nothing new under the sun. The game will go on. Without UGs there would not be a game, and without you there would be no sources.

LE has always been more for us than against us. But sometimes we are our own worst enemies and we because of greed or cutting corners create exposure and basically deliver our programs to them. We are all guilty.

My concern is that they are delibertly holding back alot of information while they get the cooperation of those who went down. We know hulk, maybe the bengal tiger. But this was much bigger than that.

There are 90 guys facing big penalties and 90% are going to roll.

Be very careful if you are a player and do not assume that everythings okay in your relationships. Time will tell all.

But give it time, lay low and see what shakes out.

There will be so much to learn beyond who went down. Always these are opportunities to learn how to go forward alittle wiser.

You got to start compartmentalizing your risk. Labs with all the product, shippers with all their inventory! It should never be this way.

Wise up, lay low, and pray for those poor brothers who have fallen,


Ricks a great resource, a lawyer, but a friend of the community as well. Make the call even if you can not afford him. He will help focus your efforts.

Its a tough time when people get hurt like this.

Just be glad its not you!


Allbeef

As always a voice of reason and truth.

Ak

 

[lntense]

Makes me sick.. Such a waste of resources.

 

[lntense]

But as stated, they couldn't have been more obvious with their operation.

 

[raw33man]

It's been 24 years since AAS were made controlled substances and to this day I am still in shock, when every other article is about marijuana legalization - AAS are still demonized.
This nation is so full of fat drunken junkies that dope up on red bulls, sugar sodas fast food and pot and alcohol it's not even funny.
These diets are killing people turning pre pubescent boys into mouses instead of men, If they adjusted the hormone levels from an early age we wouldn't have all these weirdos running the press and trying to make us think homosexuality and transexuality is normal and ok.

Rant over, gonna take a sub q shot of test for my hrt and be thankful I am out of this mess and will never be sorry for the lifestyle I chose as I look at my friends and people in my age and wonder how the hell they make it trough each day they are on so many pills from the pharm co's and so unhealthy.
It's spread all the way down to the toddler level now and will only get worse.

I read an article the other day that our greatest threat to national defense is that in 10 - 15 years none of the people signing up for the armed services will qualify as they will be too obese.

Did I say rant over?

hmmmm

I hate two types of people in this world, Homosexuals and Homophobics

 

[sodzl]

Access to raws has made it worse. Everybody wants the quick cash abd some these guys have no business in the game. I actually saw a guy on another board say he was going to Kinkos to get labels made for his gear. These are the sane guys that ask. "If a 10ml bottle has 250mg per ml, how much do I need to make 1 bottle"

 

[MjrDutch]

I used Bitcoin to pay a few merchants. I noticed one of them disappeared shortly after. A week or so later I noticed that some of the actions on my coinbase account had been suspended. I inquired about it through support and they responded by basically interrogating me about a transaction, which was to the lab that disappeared. I just told them that I had sent the funds to a friend in need. The next day i tried to log in and the site told me that my account was being closed and I had to transfer the remaining coins to finalize the process.

What I should have done was used an intermediary bitcoin wallet between my account linked to my personal information and these merchants. Not sure if they could have tracked it the same way since all you need is an email addy for a bitcoin wallet, but it probably would have helped.