Not to sidetrack the thread topic but I was lucky to have had time with all those guys.
Shelby was my first coach and really pushed me to eat to grow. It was at a time when he was still working with about 80% men. It was no nonsense, just chicken/rice, steak/rice, eggs/whites, oatmeal, waxy maize/peptopro and a lot of it. I had always been single digit mostly year round but 220 or under. Then my first year with Shelby we pushed to 240, then the next to 260, and the next to 284. The year I hit 284 was all clean food- no re-feeds, cheat meals, etc. The food was tedious but my goals were more important. I'd normally have 1 "deviation" a week which was Chipolte double steak and extra white rice. Man of few words but excellent coach especially for my first one. I think the longest he took to respond to an email was about 35 minutes unless he was at the gym.
After Shelby transitioned to mostly females, I hopped on with Matt. Matt did things different- awesome food/menu choices, pushed carbs high, utilized Humalog, re-feed days, etc. Gear was never too high. I've never competed but had some really good looks with Matt. Kept in touch with him when I moved on after 2.5 years or so and we became friends outside of coaching. I still keep in touch with Rachel from time to time. They were/are very good people!!
Also, had some good looks with AJ. Creative menu/meals, did "super saturation" days with Log, etc , etc. Just overall a solid coach. Look at his IG- he does re-comp a lot of regular guys with average genetics. Not hardly working with competitors too much now but still putting out good results. I've seen some of his gear protocols over the years but I'm not a total prude and I felt things were pretty moderate gear wise- nothing too crazy.
I re-watched these a few weeks ago. Matt had some good Youtube Vids back in the day!
This one is intriguing and may have some relevance to this thread on re-comping.