Anavar in offseason your opinion

[LATS]

Well honestly there is no such thing as a pre contest Steroid or a off season Steroid.. no don't get me wrong there are some compounds that will cause water retention that may not be ideal to use precontest etc.. but all steroids accrete protein the same way. Some have secondary characteristics that give them the nod at certain times over others .. but all build tissue.. anavar is no different .. it can be used in off season and is very nice for adding a bit of strength. . I wouldn't run it for long periods as it has a harsh effect for some in regards to lipids etc.. but overall a good all around compound

 

[WeakFNG]

Been a while, but 50mg on days I trained and I definitely saw strength gains. It started to raise my hdl around week four. Didn't mess with my appetite directly, but it did give me heartburn so there were time I didn't feel like eating.

 

[SouthernMuscle]

Well honestly there is no such thing as a pre contest Steroid or a off season Steroid.. no don't get me wrong there are some compounds that will cause water retention that may not be ideal to use precontest etc.. but all steroids accrete protein the same way. Some have secondary characteristics that give them the nod at certain times over others .. but all build tissue.. anavar is no different .. it can be used in off season and is very nice for adding a bit of strength. . I wouldn't run it for long periods as it has a harsh effect for some in regards to lipids etc.. but overall a good all around compound

The “accretion horde” never misses an opportunity

 

[gains4000]

Some of you guys get heartburn from orals because you’re stacking them with Cialis. Do not stack orals with Cialis and see if that helps with heartburn. Also, sourcing your orals is important. Certain labs put cheap fillers in them which can cause digestive issues.

 

[Big Dave Smith]

I start around 20mg and slowly increase to 50mg. Anything above 50mg for me is A LOT.

Strength and visual changes are great, but sometimes it does bother my appetite.

 

[LATS]

The “accretion horde” never misses an opportunity

If you can refute it feel free..

 

[SouthernMuscle]

If you can refute it feel free..

There’s really no need

I just find humor in the fact that the word “accrete” had a surge in popularity after victor made his appearance on the scene

 

[aHarness]

If you can refute it feel free..

700mg test a week vs 700mg proviron a week

 

[Doitagain]

Some of you guys get heartburn from orals because you’re stacking them with Cialis. Do not stack orals with Cialis and see if that helps with heartburn. Also, sourcing your orals is important. Certain labs put cheap fillers in them which can cause digestive issues.

I'm incredibly resilient to heartburn/acid reflux: 200mg a day of mixed orals + cialis? Nada
Now give me a dish a lil too spiced and I'm f'ed up for 36hrs...

 

[Mufasa123]

There’s really no need

I just find humor in the fact that the word “accrete” had a surge in popularity after victor made his appearance on the scene

When I read it, he used the word accrete/additive (call in nitrogen balance or favorable environment for adding muscle) but not in the Victor Black sense where people say all steroids accrete muscle at the same rate so the only difference is sides. Which is totally wrong as all fuck with good studies back into the 1950s on muscle gain showing it absolutely is not the case no less just about every human's personal experience that test/deca/drol kick the living shit out of masteron for building muscle. I honestly don't know whether Victor actually said and meant this (being totally ignorant of early studies and why companies were playing with the test molecule to begin with) or if he's just systematically misquoted all the time by the kids trying to break the 180lbs barrier and wondering why they struggle.

 

[LATS]

700mg test a week vs 700mg proviron a week

Yep.. it increases protein synthesis also just like all the rest.. like I stated it comes down to secondary characteristics of the compound that set them apart.. so no.. it is not ideal for muscle hypertrophy .. does it increase igf? No.. provide estro conversion etc ? No.. so it lacks needed components for growth.. but it does increase protein synthesis like all the rest..

 

[LATS]

This is starting to get off topic.. the question was can anavar be used effectively in the off season ? The answer is yes. He is already taking Testosterone as a base.. adding anavar adds to the anabolic content of a cycle. It doesn't need to be used strictly in the pre contest mode..

As for the word " accrete".. its not a new word.. lol.. and yes I have used it. I'm not 180 pounds.. nor is Scott stevenson.. or many others who talk anabolics on various pod casts etc .. the word has been used forever. Victor never " owned" the word.. he just stated the technical meaning ..

 

[aHarness]

Yep.. it increases protein synthesis also just like all the rest.. like I stated it comes down to secondary characteristics of the compound that set them apart.. so no.. it is not ideal for muscle hypertrophy .. does it increase igf? No.. provide estro conversion etc ? No.. so it lacks needed components for growth.. but it does increase protein synthesis like all the rest..

Then what’s the point of even stating they all increase protein synthesis equally if it doesn’t seem to even be that relevant for growth in the end?

 

[LATS]

Then what’s the point of even stating they all increase protein synthesis equally if it doesn’t seem to even be that relevant for growth in the end?

Read what I stated. I stated that anavar doesn't need to be pigeon holed into just pre contest.. no compound does.. they all provide protein synthesis etc.. typical pre contest drugs like winstrol.. anavar.. etc can be used to elicite growth anytime.. they can add to the anabolic content and provide additional progress ..
I also stated it's the secondary effects of these compounds that contribute to which one is better for what purpose.. for example anavar alone provide no estrogenic benefits.. we know we need estrogen for growth.. so adding anavar to a cycle that already provides the estrogen component is simply adding another anabolic that has benefits in adding additional protein synthesis among other benefits that is specific to anavar. So adding any Steroid in a high enough mg will provide additional growth to a cycle as long as estrogenic benefits are met.. which in this instance it is. Anavar is a great compound precontest or off season

 

[cmryan]

The “accretion horde” never misses an opportunity

I wonder if he originally meant to say "accrue" or "accumulate" but miffed it on a podcast and decided to run with it lol.

 

[SouthernMuscle]

I wonder if he originally meant to say "accrue" or "accumulate" but miffed it on a podcast and decided to run with it lol.

I don’t think we’re supposed to be talkin any more about it

 

[aHarness]

I stated that anavar doesn't need to be pigeon holed into just pre contest.. no compound does.. they all provide protein synthesis etc.. typical pre contest drugs like winstrol.. anavar.. etc can be used to elicite growth anytime..

I agree. I was just saying what is the point of of saying “all steroids accrue protein at the same rate” when it seems to be pretty much a non-factor in terms of actual tissue accrual?

Which is totally wrong as all fuck with good studies back into the 1950s on muscle gain showing it absolutely is not the case no less just about every human's personal experience that test/deca/drol kick the living shit out of masteron for building muscle

Honestly looks like we completely agree. I guess I just don’t see the point of even paying attention to the protein accrual when it’s irrelevant to growth potential in the real world.

 

[LATS]

I wonder if he originally meant to say "accrue" or "accumulate" but miffed it on a podcast and decided to run with it lol.

No.. the correct term is " accrete " lol

 

[aHarness]

No.. the correct term is " accrete " lol

Damn okay now I’m fucking it up too lmao

 

[LATS]

I agree. I was just saying what is the point of of saying “all steroids accrue protein at the same rate” when it seems to be pretty much a non-factor in terms of actual tissue accrual?


Honestly looks like we completely agree. I guess I just don’t see the point of even paying attention to the protein accrual when it’s irrelevant to growth potential in the real world.

It was mentioned because it is fact and it was relevant to the post.. he wanted to know if anavar could be added in off season.. yes it can.. why? Because in his cycle he already had met certain requirements for growth in regards to estro etc.. so adding anavar will provide a decent boost in the right amounts.. so would even winny.. or oral turinabol .. compound that have no estro conversion can be used for their protein synthesis to add to the cycle..