2023 Texas Pro

Fleezy · Aug 22, 2023

Elvia1023 said:
Did you go to my high school because I had a few friends like Derek. 2 were about his size and 1 was a little bigger. All of them were natural as well.

kids these days just dont know how to train!

Biggerp73 · Aug 22, 2023

165StateChamp said:
The waist is not the issue for him…it’s condition/posing through the glutes and hams and back development. No one is knocking him for his waist, especially not the judges.

I didn't say it was an issue I explicitly said his waist is amazing but go photoshop his pictures from this weekend and make the obliques smaller and shrink that waist a bit and watch how awesome he looks

165StateChamp · Aug 22, 2023

Biggerp73 said:
I didn't say it was an issue I explicitly said his waist is amazing but go photoshop his pictures from this weekend and make the obliques smaller and shrink that waist a bit and watch how awesome he looks

Pretty hard to grow your back while shrinking your waist…

I actually think the obliques work perfectly for his look. But it would be interesting to see one of the IG pages edit his pictures. Sometimes that stuff actually throws off a physique’s flow.

Biggerp73 · Aug 22, 2023

Biggerp73 · Aug 22, 2023

Thats my first ever attempt at editing a photo like that. Obviously that sort of change isn't going to be realistic. But you get the sense of what a small change to his obliques could do for his physique.

165StateChamp · Aug 22, 2023

Humans don’t have proportions like that. And you didn’t shrink his obliques. You shrank his hip structure.

You have multiple graduate degrees? How tf

Biggerp73 · Aug 22, 2023

Here's one just for shits and giggles

Ronnie who?

Biggerp73 · Aug 22, 2023

165StateChamp said:
Humans don’t have proportions like that. And you didn’t shrink his obliques. You shrank his hip structure.

You have multiple graduate degrees? How tf

I said it was the first time I ever tried to edit a photo and I said the change wasn't realistic

165StateChamp · Aug 22, 2023

Biggerp73 said:
I said it was the first time I ever tried to edit a photo and I said the change wasn't realistic

go fuck yourself bud

You’re right, I’m being mean. You’re just easy to pick on.

165StateChamp · Aug 22, 2023

Biggerp73 said:
Nah, no one else on the forum likes to ride dick as much as you two, that's all

I’ll let @SouthernMuscle take his turn now as you’re getting repetitive.

pistonpump · Aug 22, 2023

Biggerp73 said:
Here's one just for shits and giggles

Ronnie who?

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Just stop. editing photos is wack af. His obliques are carved out and shows his hardness and condition. It's called development and I don't see it as a problem anyone else? And the calves comment he has good calves u can't change the structure but they are definitely developed

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275bills · Aug 22, 2023

Dont forget to photoshop is penis pad as well

pesty4077 · Aug 22, 2023

Don't mind me, I am just here to babysit.

bbxtreme · Aug 22, 2023

We can stop the weird anime photoshopping now.

Flex Wheeler has spoken. Def wasn’t Andrew’s forearms he critiqued. But his back double bi shot. LOL

“You have to have that connection. It doesn’t seem like he was practicing on his rear double biceps a lot – it’s almost an amateur thing, you fidgeting around, looking around and all that, trying to re-contract and all that stuff, that’s a pure sign you don’t have it locked it,” said Flex Wheeler.

Source: https://fitnessvolt.com/flex-wheeler-disappointed-hunter-labrada-2023-texas-pro/

Biggerp73 · Aug 22, 2023

pistonpump said:
Just stop. editing photos is wack af. His obliques are carved out and shows his hardness and condition. It's called development and I don't see it as a problem anyone else? And the calves comment he has good calves u can't change the structure but they are definitely developed .

If you think big thick obliques look good that's fine

Not sure why some of you guys are acting like discussing how Andrew could improve is some how off limits

I explicitly said the dude is amazing and will be unbeatable

That being said, the thick obliques make his waist look wider and if he made them smaller he would have a more pronounced V taper and more imo more aesthetic shape

alfresco · Aug 22, 2023

Deleted messages . . . enough already. Take it to PM. Thank you.

tommyguns2 · Aug 22, 2023

The guy looks fantastic in this pic.

IMO, he looks fantastic in this pic because his forearms and calves are hidden. Why in the world are we saying those body parts don't matter? Do judges ignore a bicep tear or a brutal pec tear? Or ridiculously high lat insertions? They don't. And they don't even though it's structural issue out of their control, or due to an accident and everyone wishes didn't happen. At the top level, it's all structural, and some are blessed with better structural genetics than others. We don't simply choose to ignore bodyparts because his other parts are exceptional. At least it's reasonable to say this guy is awesome but doesn't deserve to win the O when two bodyparts are genuinely subpar.

This is just my opinion, but I don't think I'm being totally out of bounds in saying so. The dude is awesome, and I wish him the very best, but he doesn't deserve to be in the top 5 at the O until he brings at least his forearms up to at least an average level.

Palifter · Aug 22, 2023

tommyguns2 said:
The guy looks fantastic in this pic.
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IMO, he looks fantastic in this pic because his forearms and calves are hidden. Why in the world are we saying those body parts don't matter? Do judges ignore a bicep tear or a brutal pec tear? Or ridiculously high lat insertions? They don't. And they don't even though it's structural issue out of their control, or due to an accident and everyone wishes didn't happen. At the top level, it's all structural, and some are blessed with better structural genetics than others. We don't simply choose to ignore bodyparts because his other parts are exceptional. At least it's reasonable to say this guy is awesome but doesn't deserve to win the O when two bodyparts are genuinely subpar.

This is just my opinion, but I don't think I'm being totally out of bounds in saying so. The dude is awesome, and I wish him the very best, but he doesn't deserve to be in the top 5 at the O until he brings at least his forearms up to at least an average level.

You lose some credibility given the pic you chose to dissect is clearly edited.

10/10 thread

I’m team @165StateChamp

tommyguns2 · Aug 22, 2023

Palifter said:
You lose some credibility given the pic you chose to dissect is clearly edited.

10/10 thread

I’m team @165StateChamp

My apologies if I grabbed one of the photoshopped pics. I don't know why people do that. But my point remains. The unedited pic of him in that pose is outstanding, and even more so because it hides what is, IMHO, his two biggest weaknesses. that's smart posing, but you can't hide that in prejudging.

alfresco · Aug 22, 2023

tommyguns2 said:
The guy looks fantastic in this pic.
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IMO, he looks fantastic in this pic because his forearms and calves are hidden. Why in the world are we saying those body parts don't matter? Do judges ignore a bicep tear or a brutal pec tear? Or ridiculously high lat insertions? They don't. And they don't even though it's structural issue out of their control, or due to an accident and everyone wishes didn't happen. At the top level, it's all structural, and some are blessed with better structural genetics than others. We don't simply choose to ignore bodyparts because his other parts are exceptional. At least it's reasonable to say this guy is awesome but doesn't deserve to win the O when two bodyparts are genuinely subpar.

This is just my opinion, but I don't think I'm being totally out of bounds in saying so. The dude is awesome, and I wish him the very best, but he doesn't deserve to be in the top 5 at the O until he brings at least his forearms up to at least an average level.

Bodybuilding is about hiding your flaws as much as showcasing your strengths.