Mike Arnold
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Guessing you didn't watch the video? He explains the lats.
I'm not saying I agree with Lats playing a bigger role than pecs (why I said Lilly states that). I agree it's mostly left over from shirted lifters. My point was they are important and people do not appreciate that. I was using Lilly to drive the point home as he has hit 585+ in meets and is in the video.
Funny you mention Kaz as there is a video of him talking about using Biceps and Lats for bench. He basically realised that he could use his lats as a sort of spring board and also a means of biceps/lats as resistance on the way down and a rest (as Lilly shows in the video) at the bottom. It's a seminar video that I can't find at the moment.
I never said lats don't matter--they do, but they act as stabilizers, not prime movers. Lats come after pecs, triceps, and front delts on the priority list for raw benchers.
...and far far as "biceps" go, it's not the biceps so much as it is the brachialis that assists during the bench press, but of course, they play a very minor role (acting as stabilizers) in comparison to the other muscles. Some guys just say "biceps" rather than brachialis.
I was a powerlifter back in my 20's and lifted with several world champion lifters around 26-28 years old. I am VERY familiar with the bench press, different styles, the muscle involved, shirted benching vs. raw benching, different theories, etc.
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