anyone with high hematocrit/hemoglobin still run big cycles ??

[whoremoan]

curious if any competitors or bodybuilders in general still run big cycles with high hct and hemoglobin?

constantly hear about people not worrying about it on TRT but i want to know if people still prep or run big cycles or can we all agree TRT is pushing it ?

 

[Mufasa123]

I keep tabs on it and can get phlebotomies to manage it as needed. I know how I respond to different drugs and doses over time so will monitor more/less closely and do an occasional on advance if I know it's climbing. Not an issue for me and since I've gotten a cpap it's far less of one.

Now if you are one of those dudes bordering on 60 hct even on trt and can't control it... Totally different ball game.

 

[Reno911]

If you get tested for the clotting disorders I don't see an issue with letting H&H run a bit high.

I read in another thread a member had success controlling it with 8,000 Natto. (can't remember who). I just bumped mine to 8K a day to see if it has an impact. Mine will run 51-53 on TRT and on a blast normally. Once a year I will dump blood if it creeps above 54. I did test for the clotting factors years ago.

Get a CPAP if you don't have one already.

 

[nothuman]

I keep tabs on it and can get phlebotomies to manage it as needed. I know how I respond to different drugs and doses over time so will monitor more/less closely and do an occasional on advance if I know it's climbing. Not an issue for me and since I've gotten a cpap it's far less of one.

Now if you are one of those dudes bordering on 60 hct even on trt and can't control it... Totally different ball game.

Well I’m in this category and started a blast of 500mg test and 70mg ment a little over a week ago so we will see what happens

 

[01dragonslayer]

If you get tested for the clotting disorders I don't see an issue with letting H&H run a bit high.

I read in another thread a member had success controlling it with 8,000 Natto. (can't remember who). I just bumped mine to 8K a day to see if it has an impact. Mine will run 51-53 on TRT and on a blast normally. Once a year I will dump blood if it creeps above 54. I did test for the clotting factors years ago.

Get a CPAP if you don't have one already.

You have test results prior to bumping the Natto? What dose were you running?

 

[Reno911]

You have test results prior to bumping the Natto? What dose were you running?

I have been at 4,000 natto for probably 10-12 years. During that time cruises have been 200-400mg/week and blast of usually around 1500-1800mg/week but a few times I have been north of 2g.

I literally just bumped the natto dose to 8K this morning. I'll get bloods next in early Oct. Currently cruising at 200 Test a week.

 

[SAVAGEPMHNP]

If you get tested for the clotting disorders I don't see an issue with letting H&H run a bit high.

I read in another thread a member had success controlling it with 8,000 Natto. (can't remember who). I just bumped mine to 8K a day to see if it has an impact. Mine will run 51-53 on TRT and on a blast normally. Once a year I will dump blood if it creeps above 54. I did test for the clotting factors years ago.

Get a CPAP if you don't have one already.

Agreed! If it isn't insanely out of range then I wouldn't even worry about it. Having a few extra RBCs is not a bad thing i.e. more oxygenation throughout your body/tissues. This is precisely why cyclists use erythropoietin in doping.

 

[iron lifter]

if your plateltes are in rang and bp is good and are hydrated i see no problem. doctors error on side of caution and will either get u to lower ur dose of trt or drop blood. im in same boat. stan efferding has a good video on when to donate and when not too.

 

[nothuman]

I have been at 4,000 natto for probably 10-12 years. During that time cruises have been 200-400mg/week and blast of usually around 1500-1800mg/week but a few times I have been north of 2g.

I literally just bumped the natto dose to 8K this morning. I'll get bloods next in early Oct. Currently cruising at 200 Test a week.

Yea this is a good move. The recent evidence shows the benefits really start at 8000FU and are even better at 10,800FU.

 

[Swifto]

If you get tested for the clotting disorders I don't see an issue with letting H&H run a bit high.

I read in another thread a member had success controlling it with 8,000 Natto. (can't remember who). I just bumped mine to 8K a day to see if it has an impact. Mine will run 51-53 on TRT and on a blast normally. Once a year I will dump blood if it creeps above 54. I did test for the clotting factors years ago.

Get a CPAP if you don't have one already.

What clotting disorders did you test for?

 

[Reno911]

What clotting disorders did you test for?

It was 15 years ago so I really don't remember. Factor 5, Prothrombin, and whatever else.

 

[buck]

I donated 4-5 times a year when i was running bigger cycles. Now that it is TRT with a little extra thrown in on occasion. I donate as needed.