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But the thing is people are getting smart now and more ppl are looking after their health at an earlier age. 20 years ago when these guys started, they didn't have calcium scores and all that.
Agreed, there are better conversations happening now due to all of this, and I think many people are starting to realize the folly in their approach. One thing that took me a little while to properly understand is that people live in bubbles in this sport. Instagram/Youtube and other social media platforms didn't have discussions like plaque regression, and using an ARB to prevent cardiac remodeling until very recently.
People who frequent PM are used to that stuff because it's been talked about for years on here. But that information is starting to go around everywhere now.
And you can absolutely pro bodybuild on low doses. The only people who don't agree are people who have bad genetics and can't tell themselves they just don't have it and use "oh he uses tons of gear" as an excuse why they can do something you can't, I have used probably close to 7 or 8 grams of gear, 10iu of gh and it did nothing for me. I also do not have the genetics to be elite. I then hired Patrick tour just to see what he could do. I made the best progress I've ever made on 1100mg total, I will never be a good open bodybuilder but I can still do what I love with a healthier approach
Low is a very subjective term. One man's cliff is another man's curb. Even with "moderate" doses, there is a subset of the population that is at very high risk of developing things like cvd. It's these folks that have to figure out their long term strategy even if they have the genetics.
The more people that get into this, the more freaks we will see, and the rates of death will also increase because of underlying risk factors in some that will be accelerated. It's just the law of numbers.