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Juice and suicide

Suicide is on the rise in America as well as UK and it has NOTHING to do with Steroids. I think Elvia said number #1 cause of death under 50 in UK is suicide. As many people I have known over the years juicing, I can't think of one that committed suicide.

Exactly! Just another thing to blame steroids for. I think street drugs can lead to suicide. Being a slave to a hard drug definitely is depressing and an emotional rollercoaster from hell. Steroids make you look better and feel more confident and powerful.
 
If I remember correctly, I think it was you who pointed out this notion best. I believe you said something to the affect that when women are younger, they have like a super power. And when they age and feel that super power slipping away, they panic and get crazy and want beta male.

I think one thing us men are lucky, is nature tends to pay women back. Because without any questions, men age MUCH better than women. Just a fact. When women are young, they bat men away likes flies on your burger at a Sunday afternoon BBQ.Once they hit mid 30-ish, that game comes to an end.

Playing with Tinder was a HUGE damn eye opener for me. You swipe through thousands of women and chat with hundreds. You realize just how hideous most all women you age are (I'm 50) I just cannot get excited about any woman over age 40 unless she is some incredible exception. But here is the kicker. These obese, ugly, 40 plus women get on their and are as picky as any fucking thing you can imagine. They all have these fucked up lists that go on and on, so I just go right back to the younger women.

If you take away a woman's beauty and youth, she becomes shit socially for her value.
 
If I remember correctly, I think it was you who pointed out this notion best. I believe you said something to the affect that when women are younger, they have like a super power. And when they age and feel that super power slipping away, they panic and get crazy and want beta male.
it's not that they WANT a beta male.. it's just the best they can hope for at that point.. they WILL grow to resent him, and will likely divorce him for cash and prizes.

Playing with Tinder was a HUGE damn eye opener for me. You swipe through thousands of women and chat with hundreds. You realize just how hideous most all women you age are (I'm 50) I just cannot get excited about any woman over age 40 unless she is some incredible exception. But here is the kicker. These obese, ugly, 40 plus women get on their and are as picky as any fucking thing you can imagine. They all have these fucked up lists that go on and on, so I just go right back to the younger women.
a lot of women appear to have difficulty understanding that their value has declined with age.

I imagine it would be like working as a Chief Technology Officer at Kodak..


you used to be able to demand a very, very high salary, with bonuses and lots of perks... but your technology is no longer relevant, and your skills are no longer valuable.

You've effectively been replaced by a newer, fresher form of tech.

you however, have a very difficult time accepting and understanding that the salary you can demand has decreased dramatically.

:cool:
 
*SIGH*

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There are more people lifting than ever, what the hell are you talking about? Much more narcicism and self-esteem based on the image than 20 or 30 years ago. The difference is that there are fewer guys wanting to look for the greatness that competitive bodybuilding offers, because now they have other options, they can even be famous by publishing photos in instagram without having to compete.

Well, I am thinking about kids between the ages of 16 and 20 or so. All the ones I see are either really skinny and look like they have never touched a weight or they are fat and out of shape. Not too many guys look like they hit the iron. That seems to have slowly changed in just the past 10-20 years.
 
Correct, there are both more men and women lifting than ever thanks to social media. But it's a whole generation now who are just into it for the social aspect - post on Instagram, look at my girlsquad, wear all the name brand apparel, train at the specialty gyms because it's a see and be seen thing, etc. They're doing it for a sense of community which is fine, but fewer people than ever are doing it because they really want to change their physique, improve performance, compete, etc.

Maybe beta thinks there are more than ever at it because it is so big now in social media. If you look around at the young people you see today, you don't see the bodies to back it up. I think it is highly over represented in social media.
 
If I remember correctly, I think it was you who pointed out this notion best. I believe you said something to the affect that when women are younger, they have like a super power. And when they age and feel that super power slipping away, they panic and get crazy and want beta male.

I think one thing us men are lucky, is nature tends to pay women back. Because without any questions, men age MUCH better than women. Just a fact. When women are young, they bat men away likes flies on your burger at a Sunday afternoon BBQ.Once they hit mid 30-ish, that game comes to an end.

Playing with Tinder was a HUGE damn eye opener for me. You swipe through thousands of women and chat with hundreds. You realize just how hideous most all women you age are (I'm 50) I just cannot get excited about any woman over age 40 unless she is some incredible exception. But here is the kicker. These obese, ugly, 40 plus women get on their and are as picky as any fucking thing you can imagine. They all have these fucked up lists that go on and on, so I just go right back to the younger women.

Another thing men have going for them is that since men die at a younger age, the ratio of women to men grows the older we get. The single guys that live in retirement communities must have it made!
 
The single guys that live in retirement communities must have it made!

I don't know dude. You might want to rethink that one.
 

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Maybe beta thinks there are more than ever at it because it is so big now in social media. If you look around at the young people you see today, you don't see the bodies to back it up. I think it is highly over represented in social media.

That's my point - there are more than ever before in to it, but only at a cursory level because it's the cool thing to do. Like you said, the bodies don't back it up. They just want the sense of community, they're not motivated by actual hard training and changing their physiques.
 
Maybe beta thinks there are more than ever at it because it is so big now in social media. If you look around at the young people you see today, you don't see the bodies to back it up. I think it is highly over represented in social media.

The fitness and "health" industry has grown and there are more people involved. But there are fewer real bodybuilders.

On the other hand, crossfit, strongman and powerlifting seem to be doing well.
 
Another thing men have going for them is that since men die at a younger age, the ratio of women to men grows the older we get. The single guys that live in retirement communities must have it made!



The death gap is narrowing as more women enter the work force in full time positions


I guess chasing kids around the house in ur PJs is not as stressful as working 40-80 hour weeks, meeting deadlines and billing requirements :eek:

While making a shitty commute every single work day
 
They just want the sense of community, they're not motivated by actual hard training and changing their physiques.

Yes, I think that is part of it.
 
The smart single guy will have a lot of money stack away and have his house paid off. In his last years he will find a personal caretaker to live with him and take one of the spare rooms. The caretaker agrees to the terms and is paid whatever amount is agreed on in the contract when guy dies. Big cash pay out, weekly allowances, free rent, food internet etc Anyone can find quality care.. However if robots caretakers are advanced enough at this time that might be an option too.

Another thing men have going for them is that since men die at a younger age, the ratio of women to men grows the older we get. The single guys that live in retirement communities must have it made!
 
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Another thing men have going for them is that since men die at a younger age, the ratio of women to men grows the older we get. The single guys that live in retirement communities must have it made!

Yeah, they get all the loose pussy and floppy orangutan titties. Bahahaha 😂🤣
 
idk, maybe im just weird for caring.[/quote]


No your just plain weird [emoji57]
 
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What kind of personality do you think is attracted to this stuff?

Ask most guys, and something in life served as a spark for wanting them to look like a comic book character.

For some it was bullying

Some had low self esteem

A bad background for some

Bodybuilding provided stability in these people's lives.

A myriad of reasons; but usually an obsessive personality, and a never good enough attitude. I'm not saying everyone started due to the same reasons, but many had

The plethora of guys who were attracted to this stuff due to insecurity could've probably fixed that issue (self improvement is the best fix imo) talking to someone instead of fueling it through the over development of muscles. Which I'm not saying is a bad thing, but can often times drive guys to just bury the issue deeper and yes compromise their health in the process.

I started for similar reasons too; I was too damn small lol (118 lbs)...but I realized early on that basing your entire identity around this suit of armor is a BAD BAD thing; nothing is permanent in this life.

Instead I just appreciated the progression that came with bodybuilding; add 2.5 lbs to this lift, 1/4 an inch to that bodypart, x amount of bf lost in this time...

We all have a certain type of personality that makes us do this day in and day out...hell even the guys on just TRT are finding any little thing to make them better lol


TRT/quality of life reasons aside, EVERYONE that is into bodybuilding to the point its a huge part of their life is fucked in the head one way or another lol. Its not normal to want to get as large and strong as possible and shove needles in our bodies to do it lol. Everyone that does this is insecure as well..I often would love to be someone that doesn't really care how I look, I can respect that. Now obese or real out of shape fat people are the other end of the spectrum I just mean someone that doesn't revolve their days around food and the gym. I remember being the happiest when I was a chubby kid that liked sports and video games and thats all I cared about. At a certain point I started getting insecure which was the best/worst thing thats happened to me lol.
 
The death gap is narrowing as more women enter the work force in full time positions


I guess chasing kids around the house in ur PJs is not as stressful as working 40-80 hour weeks, meeting deadlines and billing requirements :eek:

While making a shitty commute every single work day

If I could be a stay at home dad I would take that position in a damn minute I have no shame in that lol
 
If I could be a stay at home dad I would take that position in a damn minute I have no shame in that lol
Ain't no girl paying your grocery bill Bobby lol

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The NASA program definitely does not need more funding. Boomer scientists will find a way to fuck that up as well.

If the recent trends continue, we could discover a malicious alien lifeforce hellbent on destroying our entire nation and retard shit-libs would welcome this invading species with open arms :)

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