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hello dear PM friends
I've always had a drug filled past, i left the heavy stuff behind me after a near death experience and picked up bodybuilding.
I've been on kratom and phenibut for years daily, sometimes only one of those three, sometimes a combination.
I could never completely let go of sedatives and stimulants as you can see, lying to myself that just because it's OTC it's not a real drug.
I can still function properly on the stuff, it's not like i'm wasted 24/7.
I can still work out properly, have a lean physique and get stronger.
I look healthy too, women tend to "like" me, if you get where im going.
I'm the life of every party and event, I'm the happy dude that's never down. (duh)
So in one way, I don't feel the need to quit 'cause I'm doing well, making good money, business blooming...
But in another way I don't want to feel dependent on shit, and not feel worthless and shitty when I don't take something.
Trying a couple days off results in severe apathy, low motivation, low energy, anxiety, social troubles...
I want to get off everything. I'm concerned of the long term effects, plus this shit is not free.
But I'm scared my business will not go well or my relationships will suffer.
You see, I mainly use the stuff to take the edge off things yet boost me during the day (im a store manager) and calm me down at night so i can watch tv/read stuff in peace.
Maybe someone can guide me in the right direction as which products or herbals that are healthy/healthier alternatives to Kratom/Phenibut/alcohol?
I've looked in to valerian but it fucks my stomach and i feel "out of it".
L-Theanine I've tried before but didnt do jack, perhaps it was a bad product?...
On the other hand using ANOTHER drug/supplement to stop side effects or withdrawal of something seems like an endless loop?
Do I need therapy? Yoga?
cruising on 0.4ml of test enth every 4 days with 0.25mg arimidex eod
Thank you all for reading, I love this place. I love you guys.
Rob
I've always had a drug filled past, i left the heavy stuff behind me after a near death experience and picked up bodybuilding.
I've been on kratom and phenibut for years daily, sometimes only one of those three, sometimes a combination.
I could never completely let go of sedatives and stimulants as you can see, lying to myself that just because it's OTC it's not a real drug.
I can still function properly on the stuff, it's not like i'm wasted 24/7.
I can still work out properly, have a lean physique and get stronger.
I look healthy too, women tend to "like" me, if you get where im going.
I'm the life of every party and event, I'm the happy dude that's never down. (duh)
So in one way, I don't feel the need to quit 'cause I'm doing well, making good money, business blooming...
But in another way I don't want to feel dependent on shit, and not feel worthless and shitty when I don't take something.
Trying a couple days off results in severe apathy, low motivation, low energy, anxiety, social troubles...
I want to get off everything. I'm concerned of the long term effects, plus this shit is not free.
But I'm scared my business will not go well or my relationships will suffer.
You see, I mainly use the stuff to take the edge off things yet boost me during the day (im a store manager) and calm me down at night so i can watch tv/read stuff in peace.
Maybe someone can guide me in the right direction as which products or herbals that are healthy/healthier alternatives to Kratom/Phenibut/alcohol?
I've looked in to valerian but it fucks my stomach and i feel "out of it".
L-Theanine I've tried before but didnt do jack, perhaps it was a bad product?...
On the other hand using ANOTHER drug/supplement to stop side effects or withdrawal of something seems like an endless loop?
Do I need therapy? Yoga?
cruising on 0.4ml of test enth every 4 days with 0.25mg arimidex eod
Thank you all for reading, I love this place. I love you guys.
Rob