Question about Insulin

[flklobe]

Fixing to start a cycle fo insulin, I know that the best time to take your insulin is post workout but my question is this, I have added cardio at the end of my workouts should I take my ins after my cardio?

 

[Mike Arnold]

Fixing to start a cycle fo insulin, I know that the best time to take your insulin is post workout but my question is this, I have added cardio at the end of my workouts should I take my ins after my cardio?

The best single time is pre-workout, although you need to adhere to specific diet protocols.

Here is a pre-workout insulin protocol, which will kick your ass. Your not going to fnd a pre-workout protocol, which works better. I have tried dozens of different programs in my clients and none of them work as well.

Of course, keep in mind that there are many different ways to run insulin, but if your limiting it to only at workout times, try the following. 10 lbs in 1-2 weeks is common.

Lastly, I will assume you are thoroughy familiar with Insulin and know what signs to look for in the event of hypoglycemia. I am not going to type out all the warning signs or what to do in the event of a hypoglycemic attack. However, the following program is very unlikely to result in any type of serious hypoglycemic event, even in those with extreme inuslin sensitivity. I am also unaware of your bodyweight or dietary needs, so I will write a program which should be suitable for 1st time nsulin users between 200-250 lbs.



30 minutes before workout
Inject 15 IU Humalog
60 grams Vitargo, Karbolyn (or similar).
20 grams of Hydrolyzed protein (whey, casein, or beef).
4.5 grams Leucine.
4.5 grams GPLC.
5 grams Micronized creatine monohydrate.
2 grams Beta alanine.
15 grams Glycerol monostearate
10 grams Glutamine.
3 grams Taurine.
2 grams vitamin C.
500 mg Potassium.

60 minutes later
60 grams Vitargo, Karbolyn (or similar).
20 grams Hydrolyzed protein (whey, casein, or beef).
4.5 grams Leucine.
5 grams Micronized creatine monohydrate.
2 grams Beta alanine.
15 grams Glycerol monostearate.
10 grams Glutamine.
3 grams Taurine.

60 minutes later
60 grams Vitargo, Karbolyn (or similar).
20 grams hydrolyzed protyein (whey, casein, or beef).


Note: You should consume a regular meal within 3-4 hours of beginning this protocol. Also, I don't recomnmend doing it if it has been 5 or more hours since you heve last eaten, as your blood suagr will be pretty low when you start....so try to get in your last meal within 3 to no more than 4 hours before beginning the protocol.

Lastly, since you will be drinking your last shake either at the end of your workout or very close to it (unless you workout for many hours), there is no need to eat a whole food meal assoonas the workout is over. You can wait a good hour after consuming your fina shake before eating a post-workout meal, as your body will already be supplied with all the nutrients it needs to grow.

This program will work very well for you. Give it a shot. 15 IU is a good starting dose of insulin for a pre-wrkout protocol. The amount of carbs and protien provided is more than enough to use up 15 IU of Slin, but if it worries you, somply use 10 IU for your 1st time and then go up to 15 the next time. Your pumps will be through the fuckin' roof and you will quickly gain fullness, size and overall bodyweight. Bottom line: You will feel like you are using AAS for your first time all over again and will look much bigger within just 2 weeks. It will work better if you follow this protocol at least 5 times a week. Guys who train only 3 or 4 days a week don't notice quit as good of results because they're only using Slin 3-4 times per week.

 

[aqrojase]

Do you have a protocl for postworkout slin? would the gains be the same if i only did it post workout?....or do you recommend preworkout for better gains?

 

[Mike Arnold]

Do you have a protocl for postworkout slin? would the gains be the same if i only did it post workout?....or do you recommend preworkout for better gains?

If you read what I wrote in my original post, you will see that one of the first things I said was that pre-workout slin was superior.

Remember, this pre-workout protocol floods your system with nutrients both during after after your training session, which is more effective than providing your body with nutrients after the workout.

Studies have been conducted with aminos acids showing that a greater increase in protein synthesis occurs when they are taken prior to workouts, as opposed to after.

Why wait to infuse a muscle with nutrients after it has been damaged? Why not give the body what it needs while it is encountering stress, as well as after? The body begins the repair process as soon as you do your first set. As soon as muscle damage occurs, recovery begins.

Additionally, Insulin causes a massive pump during training and this pump (bloodflow) is the catalyst for driving nutrients into cells. The more blood you can force into the muscle while training, the greater the growth response. Insulin compunds this effect to a much greater degree than when it is absent.

However, this protocol not only increases bloodflow from the insulin, but all the compounds listed serve the purpose of enhancing the pump even further. I am not lying to you when I tell you the pump is extreme...more extreme than anything you will ever when training without these aides.

The difference between this pre-workout protocol and the average post-workout protocol is like night and day. We have moved beyond thinking pre-workout nutrition is all that matters. We now know the body requires nutrients both during and after training, if a maximum growth response is desired....not to mention the extra benefits pre-workout slin provides.

 

[Stone123]

Mike,

Are the shakes taking all at once each time or sipping intra workout?

Do you think one needs to go high as 10 to 15IU to get full benefit or will
5 to 6IU suffice?

is it pretty much solid weight that's gained?

Thanks

 

[osiris]

Do you have pics of these amazing results you have gotten with your clients. There is nothong groundbreaking in your posts, looks almost as if it was copied from milos, so can you show us some of your great results please....thanks.

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[Mike Arnold]

Do you have pics of these amazing results you have gotten with your clients. There is nothong groundbreaking in your posts, looks almost as if it was copied from milos, so can you show us some of your great results please....thanks.

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If you need to see pics to know it works, I am not sure pics would help you. You should know it works by looking at it. Do I need to explain why?

When a protocol contains common ingredients all backed by science and loads of anecdotal evidence, that kind of speaks for itself, don't you think? Asking for pics to know if my protocol works is like asking if someone to post pics in order to prove that using a 3 grams of AAS per week works.

If your not informed regarding what these ingredients are or how they work, I am sorry, but I really don't have time to go over all of it. At this point, when it comes to this stuff, I am beyind the "proving myself" phase, which I why I am where I am today. If I was a dummy, I wouldn't be coaching pros and having clients all over the world. If someone wants to believe it doesn't work...their loss. If someone wants results...they'll follow it. I figured someone like you, who seems to be educated in other threads, would already know this protocol works very well just by looking at it, but I guess not.

Also, I never said there was anything "ground beaking" about it, although it does work better than Milos's protocol for the simple reason it contains a greater variety of more effective compounds, although I did draw some ideas from Milos originally, as it obviously utilizes some of the same stuff. Still, it is quite different overall, in several essential ways. If you want to know why mine works better than Milos'....post a copy of Milos's protocol and I'll explain why in detail. In fact, based on what I saw him doing last, this one was good deal better, although it's possible he has come up to date since...as it has been a coupe of years since I last looked into his Insulin protocols.

If you want pics, you can see Mike VanWyck on video during the next Bros vs. pros. He's put on 20 lbs in the last few weeks. I am not saying I deserve instant cred, but if pros trust me and ask me to write their entire diets and PED programs, as well as contest prep (a long road in the making, believe me), I figured it would count for something, but you never know with some people.

The average gain is about 10 lbs in a week or slightly longer...it depends on how many workouts is done, as it is only a pre-workout program, so the more workouts, the greater number of injects. For a protocol which can add 10 lbs in 5-6 injects, that's not to bad. Try it out for yourself and see. I seriously doubt you've used a more effective pre-workout Insulin protocol, but if you do happen to know of a better one, please post it up....as I would love to improve upon mine.

Of course, there are more effective insulin programs which utilize between 75-150 IU a day, as well as additional drugs, but that's not for most people and I would never post that up for someone like the OP.

If you have any questions...let me know.

 

[osiris]

Oh I know how it works but thank you. I have a successful career, family and dont look like shit or make excuses for my appearance or why I dont look better. As for understanding how things work, I have been using peptides since the very early days of datbtrue pioeering them and truthfully I find your scientific knowledge on the products you sell sorely lacking. Just my opinion.

As for why pics are important, any internet 'guru' such qs yourself can type in, client x gained 20 lbs in x time frame but every repurable,trainer I know gets progress pics because they show the improvement. This is,pro muscl ed buddy, not getbig, we are ALL about SHOW ME. Have a good one mike

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[Dens228]

Note: You should consume a regular meal within 3-4 hours of beginning this protocol. Also, I don't recomnmend doing it if it has been 5 or more hours since you heve last eaten, as your blood suagr will be pretty low when you start....so try to get in your last meal within 3 to no more than 4 hours before beginning the protocol.

What if you work out in the morning? About 45 minutes after waking up?

 

[Mike Arnold]

What if you work out in the morning? About 45 minutes after waking up?

You can still do it, although I would recommed trying to wake up at least 60 minutes before and consuming at least some simple carbs at 60 minutes out.....so your blood sugar is elevated a little bit before injecting Slin.

Also, I would recommend eating soon after your last shake if you do it this way...within 30 minutes.

 

[flklobe]

Mike! I'm convinced! Based on my research studying this regiment with insulin you are dead on with that protocol!! I WILL use it thanks!!!! Question: If I'm using Humanlin-R, I know that its a little longer acting than Humalog but can I intergrate it instead?

 

[aqrojase]

If you read what I wrote in my original post, you will see that one of the first things I said was that pre-workout slin was superior.

Remember, this pre-workout protocol floods your system with nutrients both during after after your training session, which is more effective than providing your body with nutrients after the workout.

Studies have been conducted with aminos acids showing that a greater increase in protein synthesis occurs when they are taken prior to workouts, as opposed to after.

Why wait to infuse a muscle with nutrients after it has been damaged? Why not give the body what it needs while it is encountering stress, as well as after? The body begins the repair process as soon as you do your first set. As soon as muscle damage occurs, recovery begins.

Additionally, Insulin causes a massive pump during training and this pump (bloodflow) is the catalyst for driving nutrients into cells. The more blood you can force into the muscle while training, the greater the growth response. Insulin compunds this effect to a much greater degree than when it is absent.

However, this protocol not only increases bloodflow from the insulin, but all the compounds listed serve the purpose of enhancing the pump even further. I am not lying to you when I tell you the pump is extreme...more extreme than anything you will ever when training without these aides.

The difference between this pre-workout protocol and the average post-workout protocol is like night and day. We have moved beyond thinking pre-workout nutrition is all that matters. We now know the body requires nutrients both during and after training, if a maximum growth response is desired....not to mention the extra benefits pre-workout slin provides.

Ok mike..i am going to give that a shot next week. I am just scared of going hypo during the workout.

 

[Chubz]

do you use humalin or humalog with this procedure

Thanks

 

[DOHCrazy]

do you use humalin or humalog with this procedure

Thanks

Did you even read the protocol? It is listed.

 

[Chubz]

Did you even read the protocol? It is listed.

HOLY SHIT am I BLIND.......my bad.....ha....

Thanks

 

[thicknasty]

Mike, would you advise a good multivitamin or AAKG along with shake #1? (i only ask because I have a surplus of it and was wondering if it would be a good time to go ahead and take those aswell). And do you advise sub q or IM for your slin?

 

[Mike Arnold]

Mike! I'm convinced! Based on my research studying this regiment with insulin you are dead on with that protocol!! I WILL use it thanks!!!! Question: If I'm using Humanlin-R, I know that its a little longer acting than Humalog but can I intergrate it instead?

Yes, you can use humulin R, but if you do, I would NOT run the program as written when switching to Humulin...the timing needs to be slightly changed, due to Humulin having a longer half-life.

 

[Mike Arnold]

do you use humalin or humalog with this procedure

Thanks

Read the OP...it clearly says which one it is, although if you change the form of Insulin from what is written in the protocol, the timing of the nutrients need to be altered.

 

[Mike Arnold]

Mike, would you advise a good multivitamin or AAKG along with shake #1? (i only ask because I have a surplus of it and was wondering if it would be a good time to go ahead and take those aswell). And do you advise sub q or IM for your slin?

You can if you want...it won't harm anything.

Sub-Q is fine. Why jab the muscle if you don't have to?

 

[thicknasty]

Thanks Mike. How would one incorporate IGF DES along with this Humalog protocal? Taken at the same time as the humalog or post w/o?