That's more along the lines of my liking..
Some of you guys are very brave lol.. I've never been over a gram total in my life and don't see the need at this point.. I choose my " girly" compounds like primo and run them a lot.. But seeing 2500 test written makes my prostate swell up let alone use it.. Lol..
Here is what I belueve after 30 or more years of this crap..
1)High test dosages are over rated.. This became popular because of price.. Test is cheap.. But after a certain amount the law of dimnishing returns rears its ugly head.. No matter what amount of anti e you take..
2) raise your more anabolic based compounds up instead of the constant upping of test.. They are better at retaining muscle without the constant bloat..
3) muscle gained with using lower amounts of test stay around longer.. That should just be common sense.. Water weight doesn't count..
4) high test usage is usually followed by anti e usage.. And it should.. Keeping e2 down is crucial.. But the need for higher amounts of anti e has its health drawbacks too.. Again it's a double edge sword with high test..
5) if you as me what will give me better gains a gram of test cyp or a gram of PRIMOBOLAN I'll choise primobolan every time.. The gains aren't instant.. But comeback in a year and see what the difference is.. No bloat.. Good feeling joints.. Sense of well being.. Primo is NOT A DHT..it's a DHB.. Similar to eq..
6) a test " base" is crucial .. BASE.. Not gram after gram..
Now this is not meant to be a bash on those taking grams of test.. It seems this is where its at these days.. But a gram of test wasn't the common dosage in the 80s and early 90s for the vast majority.. And I will ask you if you think the physiques are better?? sure dosages were still pushed then too.. But we didn't have the anti es that are readily available now.. No one wanted gyno.. So that was enough to scare most off of high test.. 600 was considered top end in test dosage for many.. Not to say they didn't pound EQ, parabolan, deca ECT.. So all I'm saying is sometime take the large disages of test out.. Run your anabolics a bit higher. Then wait.. Tell me in 6 months if you don't look and feel better..
I am beginning to see the logic and merit to this.
I've never ran Test above 750 before. I've ran 500, 600, and 750, and have always gotten good gains.
I'm now running 1,000mg a week for the first time... and the side effects (and controlling them) have been a nightmare. I have constant bloat, random headaches, have had gyno flair ups, have felt lethargic, higher blood pressure, etc. I just generally do not feel well... and I suspect the problem is aromatization, or the side-effects of too many AIs.
I have been trying to control the sides with Nolvadex and Aromasin, but like Lats said, it's tricky to dial them in right. I seem to either use too much, and feel like shit, or use not enough, and experience side effects from the AIs themselves.
The gains have not been much more stellar, either.
I'm leaning to running Test at much lower doses in the future, and simply using drugs that do not heavily aromatize. Ultimately, I'm not even sure that Test produces massive gains, either.
Ultimately, let's keep something in mind. These are supposed to be PERFORMANCE-ENHANCING-DRUGS. Right? Right!
If we use too much of any compound, to the point where it makes us feel tired, sick, lethargic, and/or bloated... how is that enhancing our performance? The obvious answer is "It probably will not".
If we use too much of any compound, to the point where it makes us feel tired, sick, lethargic, and/or bloated... are we going to be able to push ourselves to the max in the gym on a daily basis, and feel like going consistently? The obvious answer is "No".
So my logic is this: If you can use 500mg of a compound, and you feel great, and are able push yourself very hard in the gym... you will likely make better gains than using 1,000mg of a compound that makes you feel sick, bloated, and lethargic.... especially if it interferes with training intensity or consistency.
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