Anyone who is receiving free product or has some incentive, whatever it may be, to push certain product; obviously is not going to be a reliable source of information. They may be a great person and super honest in real life; but they are paid to promote products. Its like watching a tv commercial with some superstar advertising a product; its part of the business world. You need to be smart enough to see through the smoke and mirrors.
Why would you trust me? Well because I have no vested interest in any product out there. For years I have been on these boards calling bullshit on the scammers and thieves and helping to guide people in the right direction for answers. I don't post much anymore and try to stay out of things because I have much bigger fights going on in real life right now. But every once in a while I read a thread and no matter how many times I bite my tongue, I can't help but chime in.
Regarding your comment about not know if the Chinese can make legit GH or not; it shows that your factual knowledge on the subject is lacking(not a cutdown or trying to criticize). Therefore I understand your skepticism. But the fact is there are legit pharma factories that have been putting out consistent product for years. The key is to either do the research and learn the landscape or trust in those that have already done it.
I thought it was pretty clear from what I've been saying that I was talking expressly about Chinese generic gh makers and their ability to make gh...I am not talking at all about legitimate pharmaceutical companies on the regulated market and their ability to make gh. This has nothing to do with jins or real ansomone. Jins are pharma, they fall under the same window as humatrope, norditropin so let's not lump them in with chinese generics to artificially raise the stock of generics.
As for my skepticism being due to lack of lack of factual knowledge...My skepticism has nothing to do with lack of factual knowledge and everything to do with the HUGE claims you've made. You have said in this thread alone, that legit pharma companies are making off label generics for the market...why would any legit pharma company make a product for the unregulated market and risk that kind of exposure, it's peanuts to them, they're going to risk a legit business to sell 100 dollar kits out the back???? You've said the scientists and techs from genescience are pimping themselves out to these low level ops to train them how to make gh...so they are selling trade secret, proprietary technology in China, where that could mean death? you want to talk about looking past the smoke and mirrors, that talk is smoke and mirrors, it's all marketing.... generics are great, the real guys are making them and the real scientists are involved... if you're going to try to hype up the generics market with this kind of talk, you need to be saying how you know that. If it were all true despite having the trade secrets, the training, the equipment, I asked for any examples of generics that have stood the test of time and still no answer, cause we know the answer...how is that possible if they can make it with such ease? instead of just giving some answers that could clear up some skepticism you went after pharma, misdirection...the pros who say they notice a difference, they have an incentive, the users who feel a difference, placebo, but the onus isn't on pharma, pharma is the standard....it has nothing to prove, generics have everything to prove... so how do you know these things, you either are involved in which case you do have a vested interest or you don't know and you're presenting hearsay as your evidence which could be just complete and utter nonsense.
I'll say it again, if members saw inconsistency from other generic products the way they see it in generic gh they'd either avoid or go pharma but the ticket price here is giving generics endless slack. What other product do you have to test every time you buy it, what other product varies results from batch to batch, these kind of swings wouldn't be acceptable on another product.
I hope you see this objectively and don't take it personally because i mean no insult but if you were sitting in my seat, given my experiences you'd question and that's all I'm doing.
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