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If I had access to good ephedrine I wouldn't mess with any of these. Why do you US guys bother when you can get ephedrine? Ephedrine has been superior to any PW IME. Both for mood and "energy".

I read that Craze is now followed by "Frenzy" but only sold in the UK. For unknown designer dope this might be good LOL... maybe. :D
 
If I had access to good ephedrine I wouldn't mess with any of these. Why do you US guys bother when you can get ephedrine? Ephedrine has been superior to any PW IME. Both for mood and "energy".

I read that Craze is now followed by "Frenzy" but only sold in the UK. For unknown designer dope this might be good LOL... maybe. :D

I stopped messing with it in 07 or 08 because its effect on cortisol.
 
I stopped messing with it in 07 or 08 because its effect on cortisol.

You mean it boosts cortisol? Might not be a bad thing:D... some theorize a little hydrocortizone will extend a cycles effectiveness when you have plateaued.

Yeah, chronically high cortisol isn't good, but cortisol gets too much of a bad rap imo. You want/need that cortisol spike in the morning and the cortisol spike from training is important.

Steroids like Dianabol increase cortisol, which might be responsible for some of the desired positive effects.

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/701455-post4.html
 
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Strangely enough...when it comes to ephedrine, I have never taken anything that was as good as the old 25mg Vasopro.
 
I have taken a lot of pre workouts over the years. I can't have much caffeine now as I get the shakes and they can bring out anxiety. I am using one that is amazing and has just a nice amount of caffeine in. It's based in the UK so no good for the US guys. Just a very simple formula but works great. Here is the list of ingredients...

Active Ingredients Per Serving (20g)
Nitric Oxide Catalyst Formula
L-Arginine (g)
2

Citrulline Malate (g)
2

Niacin (mg)
80

Pump Complex
Glycerol Monosterate (g)
2

Creatine Monohydrate (g)
1

Creatine Gluconate (g)
1

Performace Matrix
Beta-Alanine (g)
2

Glycine (g)
2

Taurine (g)
2

L-Tyrosine (g)
1

Caffeine (mg)
80

The above is called Matrix Rage NO Pump Xtreme. I also really like Dorian's Yate's NOX Pump. The original Superpump was great too but no longer exists.
 
We ran out of sample packs again but I will send baggies just send me a message. If I missed you on the last batch I will get you now ;)
 
If your stuff is so good you shouldnt have a problem sending out free 1 serving samples like most companies do.

Bro, do you have ANY IDEA how much it costs to make those 1 serving samples? It's a lot cheaper to give away a 30serving tub than 30 1 serving samples.
 
I tried the new one from Iforce today, and really liked it.
 
I do c4 just because I bought them in bulk, no complaints just might take a 3rd scoop lol
 
BurgerKing13,
I have the Old version of Angeldust I received from a friend recently.
I have not even tried it yet. Ill update you soon on what I think of it.

I have never really tried these EXTREME pre-workout formulas.
 
If I had access to good ephedrine I wouldn't mess with any of these. Why do you US guys bother when you can get ephedrine? Ephedrine has been superior to any PW IME. Both for mood and "energy".

Probably because it suppresses appetite like crazy and doesn't really give good pumps like the others do.
 
BurgerKing13,
I have the Old version of Angeldust I received from a friend recently.
I have not even tried it yet. Ill update you soon on what I think of it.

I have never really tried these EXTREME pre-workout formulas.

Just be careful. These extreme formulas sometimes elevate your heartrate, so really old guys need to be cautious.
 

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