Its a placebo ONLY if you believe this nonsense....I have the COAs, she has this with the lab tech telling us she cannot comment on the results......she cannot verify what was posted here......so right........hahahhahaah
and why are you posting a receipt of materials from FEBRUARY 2011 AND JUST NOW GETTING IT TESTED????????
We planned to test Precision Peptide's follistatin back in february, to prove to everyone the same debate argument (nobody has the real follistatin).....it wasn't until all this Ergomania hype that we decided to test both companies.
Don't worry we have plans to test ALL companies that carry follistatin now.....it is just a matter of time.
That is kind of mute point anyway, isn't it?
I am not doubting Phil here, but he has stated several times that he has the HPLC test results as well. Instead of posting just the COA, which I am not disputing the legitimacy of, post the HPLC results that you have as well. Sometimes in business we have to provide proof of our integrity and honesty to others who do NOT deserve it, but we do it anyway because that is the right way to professionally conduct ourselves.
BEAST
My issue is this, A manufacturer and seller of peptides as 21 Century Biochemical appears to be according to their websites, is not an unbiased uninterested independent 3rd party.
The entire scenario, reminds me of Nordicsport and GH many years ago.
Ak
I sent it all to Jello, he has them...if you do not understand lab testing you could be fooled by this, there really is nothing more I can say.............believe it or not.
I don't suppose theres and chance of having hgh tested is there because im sure some of the crap ive had wasnt real hgh....
Thank you...........she said she cannot discuss what PHF posted here......she said she is staying out of it....RIGHT! hahahahahha
i dont really know what to say about this. Now this is gonna be meant with all due respect to all parties and again this is my oppinion. Phil has been on this board a long time. I know several people who use his services on training.nutrition and have gotten great results.
I am curious to PHF. IS this about you believing something is not being sold as is and you are getting tests done ect? Figure it this way
if you believe an underground source isnt selling what they say it is,are you gonna do tests on all the testosterone/ EQ/ DECA ect? or being that these are peptides is why you are concerned? I must say the results are shocking and obviously the sheets were not made up. I do have to say though, I have used ergos des on my rats and they are getting crazy pumps and leaner as well.
yes we can and I can tell you that most of all IGF-1 and HGH are fake or contains something else coming from china.
I can accept that. I never saw the HPLC posted, just the COA, is all I'm saying.
BEAST
So the results say that Ergo's Folli is 55% pure and the molecular weight was not what they expected. Am I the only one that thinks "Well if people are gaining 5-7 lbs in a week off this stuff and not getting sick I would still do it anyway". Most of what I use I have no idea if it is what is stated on the bottle. I almost always have to make my judgements based on the results of the product.
yes we can and I can tell you that most of all IGF-1 and HGH are fake or contains something else coming from china.