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npc/ifbb fucked, doomed, done as we know it?

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this shit isnt going away. nothing new I know. power balance has always been, but what does it mean short term long term?
will anyone show up at comps? more promoters leave?
questioning whether I should do anything for fear of cxl shows.
my last one was already removed forever due to promoter bailing from the league

lawyers taking it on are no joke. Cosby went down, pretty sure JM has no chance

what to do ?
 
People doesnt want to talk about it, because its the only real show in town. So if the ship sinks there is no other place. Regardless of people making money on Social media they still use the bodybuilding, fitness shows to make a name for themselves.
 
People doesnt want to talk about it, because its the only real show in town. So if the ship sinks there is no other place. Regardless of people making money on Social media they still use the bodybuilding, fitness shows to make a name for themselves.
So in the end all this be swept under the rug
 
I mean after my last show and where I "placed" I don't think there's much integrity there. I should have probably been 2nd in the heavies and was 4th. And there was zero question that the person they put in 3rd should have been lower than me. According to pics, and everyone that I had there discerning eyes or not.

I don't know what all they're accusing the Manion's of really but it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of it were true given what it seems like the promoter of the last couple shows I've done might be guilty of. Basically fixing the shows.

And it's really not fun to do when you don't feel like you're even getting compared fairly.
 
This is serious, seeing that mainstream news media is getting a hold of it and putting it out there for everyone to see whether they have any interest in BB and fitness or not, that's a lot of people to be made aware of these serious allegations. If JM is actually linked to a soft Porn website exploiting competitors that could be it for the Manion dynasty.
 
As of right now, I don't see the NPC/IFBB Pro League going down, but I do see the Manion's having to step down as being in control.
**EDIT** - NOT GOING THERE!
 
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The general public could not even begin to care about this even a tiny bit. When Jim retires, JM will be running the NPC and IFBB Pro League. Nothing will change.
 
This is serious, seeing that mainstream news media is getting a hold of it and putting it out there for everyone to see whether they have any interest in BB and fitness or not, that's a lot of people to be made aware of these serious allegations. If JM is actually linked to a soft Porn website exploiting competitors that could be it for the Manion dynasty.
ive seen the websites, know people who were on them
they existed
 
The general public could not even begin to care about this even a tiny bit. When Jim retires, JM will be running the NPC and IFBB Pro League. Nothing will change.
jm is the photographer
if anyone will, it will be Tyler, who pretty much is doing it already
 
Washington Post already publicized this back in 2022. No one cares.
why I asked about it in this thread. curious of how others around think, as I believe many people will see it 180 degrees different then you. when shows that had 200+ competitors go down to 32 the following year, what does it say. someone cares, or is it a coincidence. personally do not believe in coincidences.
22' wasnt all that long ago. ramifications are about to start manifesting themselves. like.......a couple weeks from now in columbus OH. whats that going to look like??
When shows (npc and ifbb) are now gone off the schedule, and there is a scramble to put on shows in that area with new people, and now were going back to shithole middleschool venues to cut expenses to stay afloat? Something is happening, but Im not sure how far this will go and what it does to people like me and others in the sport
 
Whatever women are half naked in the gym anyways. They post their ass on the reg.
Might as well in hopes of turning pro or bumping up a few spots. Women love that shit.

When’s the last time you saw a women conduct herself with class and stay covered up. I’ve never seen it. Not once. They hike up there spandex up there ass on purpose.
 
22' wasnt all that long ago. ramifications are about to start manifesting themselves. like.......a couple weeks from now in columbus OH. whats that going to look like??
You mean the arnold this weekend? Don't read too much into that since the asshats don't have many of the female divisions at all. I'm sure as hell not even watching it when they do that shit.
 
jm is the photographer
if anyone will, it will be Tyler, who pretty much is doing it already
Very good point, time will tell if this blows over or not. Personally, I hope it does.
 
You mean the arnold this weekend? Don't read too much into that since the asshats don't have many of the female divisions at all. I'm sure as hell not even watching it when they do that shit.
right sorry my bad. youd think id know better since im going in few days? but yes, whats going to happen.? expo, booths, pro show , amatuer show, attendance. I am thinking its not going to be anything close to what it was, and even though it has been changing, and is forever changed after Mike is no longer promoting and Jim passed
 
General public will not care as they dont care about bodybuilding. I would give zero interest if I would found out that ceo of dart was making soft porn with people in this sport. Even if cnn and all mainstream media would wrote about it.
 
Man, when you are the only game in town no one who matters is ever gonna bite the hand that feeds.

I don’t have a dog in this fight at all and am not even interested in bodybuilding..but, from the outside looking in? It looks really bad, but the “sport” is so niche and obscure I honestly think general pop folks not involved all kinda suspected this anyways
 
The general public could not even begin to care about this even a tiny bit. When Jim retires, JM will be running the NPC and IFBB Pro League. Nothing will change.
I agree with this. If this was the NFL, NBA, even a single team, hell even women's soccer or tennis it would get ratings. The mainstream media puts out what gets clicks. I just don't think people care enough about bodybuilding to even click on the story.

Everyone knows who Lorena Bobbitt is, jon Benet Ramsey (so), no one knows who Craig Titus is.
 

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