In terms of condition . I have seen so many naturals I'm such superior condition to their non natural counterparts . So I don't agree with this, I guess that many of these naturals could be using but still it would be less than that of someone who doesn't need to pass drug tests. Over here in the UK I can honestly tell you the quality in condition of natural athletes as a majority anhilates that of the non natural bodybuilders . Sure these guys look like stick insects In clothes and diet for 20 plus weeks when they are ALREADY lean but the point is they get in disgusting condition, you just gave to suffer . The only condition I haven't seen matched and I do think is hardcore dieting plus the right compounds is that of the athletes at ifbb world championships because. They have an entirely different look. Fortunate enough to talk drugs and diet with them. They SUFFER on their diet and use a lot of specific compounds , however these compounds would illicit no visual effect if the body fat is not low enough in the first place.