I've been trying to get away from stims lately. In the recent past I tried the stim free version of nitrolyze. It was ok.
For a long while I was doing 5g citrulline malate and 750-1000mg agmatine and it was solid.
This week I have been using hemanovol which is Allmax ' s new product with agmatine, citrulline, and hydromax. It's good but not great...
I'd really like to find something that rocks me with minimal stim. (150 - 200mg caffeine max)