Im no expert on the various brands, I know what machines feel good and hit the muscle and which don't. The gym with mostly hoist is adequate, always empty, dumbbells, cables, benches always available. The other gym has better equipment that appears much older but it's of no use to me if it's always packed and can't get in it. The dumbbell area is overcrowded and a complete mess benches never open. If we had a gym close by that had good equipment that wasn't packed I'd be more than happy to pay the $$. Only reason I know the hoist by brand name is because it's so shitty. That's my question, how are companies that put out shitty equipment so popular and why don't their engineers recognize how shitty the product is and improve it like the good brands?