Sorry but I have to totally disagree. 80g of carbs is too much for my wife to be in ketosis. 50 is minimum, she needs closer to 20g. My wife has been on a keto diet since the 80's and knows her body pretty well. This is a national champion turned pro not so dumb ass women who knows nothing. We have tested her glucose readings and used keto sticks even to this date. 8o grams/15% is low carb, not any where near keto. One of my colleges has done a world or research on ketogenesis. I have discussed the minimums in depth with him and my wife has years of experience. Its real simple, we are all not the same and should not be treated that way by a guy that calls himself a professional. After a year went by and my wife fully recovered, I supervised my wife's diet, training and cutting and I can promise you she looked great. No frigging stimulants and 12mg of HTC the night before the contest. No aldactone, no clen, no stimulants and lower doses of steroids. I still have pictures of her week to week disaster with Shelby and she looked worse after 3 months than when she started, not to mention her health was in the garbage You would think the guy might have actually looked at this and made a change. No just keep doing what you are doing, increase the cardio and increase the stimulants. Those numbers I posted were from day 1 and gradually increased.
#2. When you take take in 2k calories and burn 1700k calories those are used strictly for exercise. We still have not covered basal metabolism needs and trust me 300 calories per day is not enough to keep the body functioning properly or preserve muscle mass, I don't care if you do massive amounts of steroids and GH. Training 2-3 hours a day 7 days a week requires more calories especially when you are not cutting for a show. She had so little energy even the stimulants didn't keep her going. Not even with the 750mg of greet tea extract with every other meal. As a coach you simply have to see this shit and make adjustment. Not just take money and rubber stamp this bullshit advice.
#3. I am not saying someone can't cut 10% in 3 months at all. I never said it is absolutely impossible, I say it is not a reasonable goal and you are going to have to be using stimulants, low calories etc for way too long. Continuous high HRs are very damaging for the heart. Especially for over a month. This is what is causing heart and kidney issues with these women. The WISE thing is to take 6 months and slowly lose the BF to avoid muscle loss and extreme diets and training as well as potential long term cardiac and kidney issues.
#4 Read the known side effects of Aldactone, dig deep. Did you know that trannies going from male to female are prescribe this drug to femanize? It blocks steroid receptor sites. In three months of use what effect could this possibly have on the ability to build and preserve lean mass? I have no problem with that. He had them on it for 1-3 months. Combined with gradually increasing dose of T3, clen, and two other diuretics. My wife was 51 years old at the time and had no estrogen issues. Burt that was never asked by the GURU.
#5 Absolutely bodybuilders are taking drugs. Being irresponsible and insisting clients do this after taking their $500 is dangerous and is why 4 women have does and one is waiting for a heart surgery. Many more have had severe health issues.
Regardless of how much you think these stimulant doses are low or even acceptable, when a client is having gastric issues after taking them to the point of severe stomach cramps and totally shitting on themselves this needs to be rethought. When a diet is so low energy that a client can not physically deal with the exercise you have prescribed then the pal to be rethought. When a 51 year old women trains so hard, diets so hard and takes so many stimulants that she almost goes into rabdo and has to seek medical help there is a problem. When your urine looks like Coke as happened to quite a fe of his women, you are in big trouble and could possibly die quickly. There is ZERO need too have a client on Aldosterone for 3 months or longer. ZERO! Now2 do we really need to get into the the advice to have women on long term letro? I know a MAN who was a doctor taking TRT and letro and he committed suicide. ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO HAVE TAKEN HIS OWN LIFE. This stuff has to stop. No one should ever be coached into the hospital or even death. Sometimes accidents happen, but 4? With no telling how many injured to the point of ending their career.
Ketosis isn't an all or nothing thing, you can go into mild states of ketosis, everyone generally goes into a mild state of ketosis every night when they sleep. I personally find it hard to believe he didn't adjust her diet according to her progress because that is generally what all coaches, including Shelby, do. If you follow him, you know the last thing he does is use the same approach for everyone, his diets are all over the place. He might use a similar approach based on size or body composition to start, but these things are adjusted over time. Is it possible your wife was massively overtraining? Adding additional stims? Already on too many stims when the diet started?
You said, "He had them on it (aldactone) for 1-3 months" who is "them"? No coach I have heard of would use aldactone for more than 2 weeks. "dig deep"? I said earlier in this thread it was used for that, that isn't deep, it's basic knowledge of aldactone.
"tranny" really? It's commonly used for gender reassignment in transgender women and for acne, as I said earlier. Yes it's an anti-androgen, but you don't seem to realize female bodybuilders have been using it for almost half a century.
10% bodyfat in 3 months is LESS than 2lbs per week, totally reasonable and even EXPECTED. You seem completely uneducated in bodybuilding prep and even basic fatloss with this statement.
If she was getting rabdo symptoms she was massively over training, that isn't the diet or the tims, that is the TRAINING.
You blame letro and trt on a doctor taking his life? lmao
I think you said Aldosterone when you meant alcactone?
I'm not defending Shelby directly because I don't know exactly what happened, I do know there is a bunch of 2nd hand information being thrown around and all the ACTUAL first hand information I have heard isn't extreme at all, like your case. Also, there is the russian that died recently who had serious health issues and that brazilian that died a few years ago who had undiagnosed heart issues, the others are made up from what I can tell.
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