What 280.4lbs. At 6.6% Looks Like According To Dexa

[btails]

This is a sound strategy and I think you will be shocked at how big and lean you stay with much lower drug burden and with much less strict adherence to everything. You won't be 295 benching 500 or 280 at 6% but damn I think you will be shocked with all the effort you have put it that if you keep training really hard you can get away with a lot even if drugs are cut in half (or more) and diet is 70% of the rigor you have now. Meadows and others often talked (in person) about how low you can go with drugs if you train very hard and correctly and at least keep diet mostly in check and I was personally shocked how loose I could get and keep things together.

You've obviously reached an elite level of physique development so it will deteriorate (which, as you noted is part of the goal and isn't a bad thing) but mark my words you will be surprised.

Interestingly enough the people that talked about being able to maintain great physiques on less are also those who are no longer with us... im sure people can understand where I'm going with this.

 

[Hyperemia]

Hovering around 280lbs. right now and in the best condition I've been in at this point in the year - holding less water and my stomach isn't as bloated as it's been in years past.

I actually took a break in October / November. When we got back from California nothing was working right - my weight was dropping and no matter what I did I couldn't get back on track. I ended up going down to HRT for a while, brought my diet to roughly baseline, and maybe trained 10 times total in November. I dropped to the low 260s. I got back on track in early December and things are going good. I've never taken a break in a growing phase and it was quite frustrating but I think it's set me up to be in a better position for dieting this year since I'm still starting at a good weight and leaner than I've been in the past.

It's very likely 2023 will be my last full year of hardcore bodybuilding for a few reasons.

As a non-competitor I've really done it all - I've been a shredded 5% multiple times, I've been 295lbs. and ripped, I've benched 500lbs., I've had all the attention in public. I'm a very goal-oriented person and there just isn't much left aside from getting on stage which I have no interest in.

Another is that for the majority of guys to reach the level I'm at your life has to revolve around bodybuilding and nothing else - and keep in mind I do this as a hobby while working in corporate for one of the big banks. Everything has to be tailored to getting your meals in, getting your shots in, workouts, rest, etc. That's never been a problem for me but once or twice a year I'd feel pretty burnt out from it. This year I felt it multiple times throughout the year and repeatedly told my girlfriend I felt like I need a break from it for a while. This shit is a grind and while it does get easier as it becomes such a routine part of your lifestyle it's still a fucking grind to go through. I'm ready to scale back on all that. I've never been one of those monk bodybuilders who doesn't leave the house but I'm ready for more flexibility with nightlife, events, more time with my girlfriend, etc.

Finally, and probably the biggest reason, is health. I've been very fortunate to maintain good health through my bodybuilding journey and there's no reason to keep pushing it for years and jeopardize that.

Right now my plan is diet starting in March, rebound likely in late May, and push the rest of the year to get as big as possible. Come 2024 I'll diet for the last time then rebound to around 265lbs. and stay there. That's always been a weight I feel best at - I feel relatively light, things like putting a seatbelt on aren't difficult, and I can easily maintain that on reduced diet and training. From there it'll be a slow process of gradually bringing weight down as the years go by - I'll turn 40 in 2027.

That’s good to hear. I appreciate threads like these (Luki, Otherone etc) as I pick up a bit of knowledge from the transparency you guys bring to the forum. The biggest thing for me is seeing just what it takes to reach this elite level, it’s humbling and motivating. I hope you stay with the updates as I enjoy following your progress.

 

[cage99]

Hovering around 280lbs. right now and in the best condition I've been in at this point in the year - holding less water and my stomach isn't as bloated as it's been in years past.

I actually took a break in October / November. When we got back from California nothing was working right - my weight was dropping and no matter what I did I couldn't get back on track. I ended up going down to HRT for a while, brought my diet to roughly baseline, and maybe trained 10 times total in November. I dropped to the low 260s. I got back on track in early December and things are going good. I've never taken a break in a growing phase and it was quite frustrating but I think it's set me up to be in a better position for dieting this year since I'm still starting at a good weight and leaner than I've been in the past.

It's very likely 2023 will be my last full year of hardcore bodybuilding for a few reasons.

As a non-competitor I've really done it all - I've been a shredded 5% multiple times, I've been 295lbs. and ripped, I've benched 500lbs., I've had all the attention in public. I'm a very goal-oriented person and there just isn't much left aside from getting on stage which I have no interest in.

Another is that for the majority of guys to reach the level I'm at your life has to revolve around bodybuilding and nothing else - and keep in mind I do this as a hobby while working in corporate for one of the big banks. Everything has to be tailored to getting your meals in, getting your shots in, workouts, rest, etc. That's never been a problem for me but once or twice a year I'd feel pretty burnt out from it. This year I felt it multiple times throughout the year and repeatedly told my girlfriend I felt like I need a break from it for a while. This shit is a grind and while it does get easier as it becomes such a routine part of your lifestyle it's still a fucking grind to go through. I'm ready to scale back on all that. I've never been one of those monk bodybuilders who doesn't leave the house but I'm ready for more flexibility with nightlife, events, more time with my girlfriend, etc.

Finally, and probably the biggest reason, is health. I've been very fortunate to maintain good health through my bodybuilding journey and there's no reason to keep pushing it for years and jeopardize that.

Right now my plan is diet starting in March, rebound likely in late May, and push the rest of the year to get as big as possible. Come 2024 I'll diet for the last time then rebound to around 265lbs. and stay there. That's always been a weight I feel best at - I feel relatively light, things like putting a seatbelt on aren't difficult, and I can easily maintain that on reduced diet and training. From there it'll be a slow process of gradually bringing weight down as the years go by - I'll turn 40 in 2027.

How’s the ol lady feel about your life revolving around this lifestyle currently? Is she growing tired of it as well.

My X wasn’t onboard and got annoyed over it, but my current wifey doesn’t mind one bit. That part is refreshing!

Cage

 

[flex22]

I know what I’m gonna say has been said many times before but it’s still crazy to witness first hand. I have a very obsessive compulsive personality also highly addictive personality. So reason for saying that is because I convince myself and guilt myself so badly when I miss multiple days in the gym let alone 3,4, or 5. When I look at myself I feel disgusted, flat, flabby soft etc. But the day I get back in the gym and get that pump back that rush going that adrenaline pumping and I’m actually willing to take a pic more than half those times I actually look better . It’s crazy what our heads do and take us to these dark places .!

 

[claymore]

Impressive

 

[xyz14]

Just bumping this thread since i consider it a goldmine.

 

[marssel]

How’s the ol lady feel about your life revolving around this lifestyle currently? Is she growing tired of it as well.

My X wasn’t onboard and got annoyed over it, but my current wifey doesn’t mind one bit. That part is refreshing!

Cage

That is the hard part, once you hit 40 and/or start having kids. I always thought “I’ll just keep doing what I do the structure is gonna make ALL THAT easier” Then comes the realization that if I’m gonna be around for my kids that I’m gonna have to give up being the biggest guy wherever I go. Which isn’t why we do this but it becomes who you are. All the while everyone around you in the gym is getting younger which makes you want to stay bigger and stronger even more. This will always be my life but it’s why I really dove back into hunting and fishing heavily again. You have to find things that keep you happy and satisfied going forward where the gym has been 100% just that for decades, food journaling, skipping parties to get sleep, waking up and going straight to the mirror. It’s definitely a head fuck or at least it has been for me.

 

[Siggy]

Liver King living that ancestral lifestyle !

 

[Massive G]

Liver King living that ancestral lifestyle !

LOL he looks a lot better than liver king and not a serial liar.

 

[MR. BMJ]

That is the hard part, once you hit 40 and/or start having kids. I always thought “I’ll just keep doing what I do the structure is gonna make ALL THAT easier” Then comes the realization that if I’m gonna be around for my kids that I’m gonna have to give up being the biggest guy wherever I go. Which isn’t why we do this but it becomes who you are. All the while everyone around you in the gym is getting younger which makes you want to stay bigger and stronger even more. This will always be my life but it’s why I really dove back into hunting and fishing heavily again. You have to find things that keep you happy and satisfied going forward where the gym has been 100% just that for decades, food journaling, skipping parties to get sleep, waking up and going straight to the mirror. It’s definitely a head fuck or at least it has been for me.

 

[Siggy]

LOL he looks a lot better than liver king and not a serial liar.

They both look good. Just having a bit of fun.

Yea LK lies out of his ass. I never realized how analogous he was to Mike Ohearn. But it looks like he takes a lot more shit than Ohearn does.

 

[marssel]

They both look good. Just having a bit of fun.

Yea LK lies out of his ass. I never realized how analogous he was to Mike Ohearn. But it looks like he takes a lot more shit than Ohearn does.

Yea but Oh Hearns plastic surgery woman’s face with hair plugs in a man over 50-seeing him makes me wanna smash his head in with a folding chair. He’s the walking embodiment of every negative stereotype they have about us

 

[275bills]

Yea but Oh Hearns plastic surgery woman’s face with hair plugs in a man over 50-seeing him makes me wanna smash his head in with a folding chair. He’s the walking embodiment of every negative stereotype they have about us

And your attitude isn't?

 

[marssel]

And your attitude isn't?

My attitude in regards to Mike? No I don’t think so, out in public I don’t prance I have no plastic surgery. I say yes mam no mama/sir I go out of my way to not come off as the full of himself rude dude waddling around with ILS. We need guys like Platz, Zane, Mountain Dog (RIP) big dudes that act cool which is what I aspire to. If you like Mike, cool say it. Good for you, if you think my attitude is bad please elaborate, unless it’s bc I think Mike is a douche bc in that case I don’t give a damn. Cheers

 

[aHarness]

I think Mike is a douche bc in that case I don’t give a damn. Cheers

As someone who knows nothing about Mike besides that he’s known for being a fake natty, why is he a douche?

You mention platz who also clearly lies about his usage.

 

[275bills]

My attitude in regards to Mike? No I don’t think so, out in public I don’t prance I have no plastic surgery. I say yes mam no mama/sir I go out of my way to not come off as the full of himself rude dude waddling around with ILS. We need guys like Platz, Zane, Mountain Dog (RIP) big dudes that act cool which is what I aspire to. If you like Mike, cool say it. Good for you, if you think my attitude is bad please elaborate, unless it’s bc I think Mike is a douche bc in that case I don’t give a damn. Cheers

The only reason I mentioned it was because you said you wanted to bash his head with a chair.

Then go on to say... He’s the walking embodiment of every negative stereotype they have about us

Roid rage is one of the major ones. Mike seems like a calm and cool fella.

While your judging people on there looks.

Out of respect for @danieltx let's drop it though.

 

[SouthernMuscle]

He’s the walking embodiment of every negative stereotype they have about us

I go out of my way to not come off as the full of himself rude dude waddling around with ILS. We need guys like Platz, Zane, Mountain Dog (RIP) big dudes that act cool which is what I aspire to.

……….

Young trim is great but it doesn’t hurt to have some 45 and up around that are in great shape and have their own $ bc I don’t pay for the trips we go on except for attending shows even the 20 something’s if we go to the casinos we go Dutch I bring the dick you bring the tits.

a 21 year old is just right for fun no commitment preferably with a boyfriend so I can dick n go.